3 kidnapped women found alive??? WEIRD STORY!

[Deleted member 365]

This might be one of the most eerie interviews I've ever seen.

https://www.cnn.com/2013/05/09/us/ohio-suspect-daughter/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

I really hope this encourages folks to get involved more in their society. If you see or notice something weird, don't just shrug your shoulders and forget about it. These women could have been found so much earlier had a neighbor or family member become just a little more involved.

 

[Gameface]

I read an article where the title indicates that the man may be charged with a murder count for each child that he prevented from being born. That leads me to wonder how that will, if at all, affect the abortion debate.

I'm not trying to smart-*** you on this, but I'm guessing that forced abortions and instigating an abortion through physical abuse will remain illegal.

 

[Stoked]

I'm not trying to smart-*** you on this, but I'm guessing that forced abortions and instigating an abortion through physical abuse will remain illegal.

Yes, lol. My point being is that is it classified as murder that would indicate that the unborn child is a person correct? Would that not lead to a challenge on abortion being assisted murder of a person with court rulings to back it up?

If the unborn child has been listed as a person in court rulings where does the line get drawn? If it is legally recognized as a person and it is legal to have assistance in terminating its life then why do we charge doctors that help already born patients to die with murder?

So where I am going with this? Just wondering how all that plays out is all and if it would change anything.

 

[PearlWatson]

It all depends on the mother's consent no matter her age.
Liberal morality always comes down to consent.
If the knocked up teenage girl says you can kill it then it is all good.
Since the baby has no ability to consent Liberal's disregard it.

 

[Stoked]

It all depends on the mother's consent no matter her age.
Liberal morality always comes down to consent.
If the knocked up teenage girl says you can kill it then it is all good.
Since the baby has no ability to consent Liberal's disregard it.

OK, consent. Then would murder be the right charge? It would not be assault on the mother? If you are leveling a charge of murder on the man and the only one who died was the unborn child does that not alter the definition of murder and open challenges on abortion and cases like Dr. Kavorkian?

 

[One Brow]

OK, consent. Then would murder be the right charge? It would not be assault on the mother? If you are leveling a charge of murder on the man and the only one who died was the unborn child does that not alter the definition of murder and open challenges on abortion and cases like Dr. Kavorkian?

Ohio has the specific criminal statute of fetal homicide. This is not the same as a murder statute, it only covers fetuses. A fetus does not have to be a person legally for fetal homicide to be a crime.