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Eenie-Meenie said:
Reasonable but it's a pack of lies. Since when did they keep records about tornadoes during the Civil War years -- that was the clue that this was suspect. I haven't checked his claims but I guarantee most of what he is saying is pure b.s.

Sure enough, the work of the dirty, dishonest Koch brothers, the secret power behind the Trump Administration:

https://climateinvestigations.org/who-is-paying-for-heartland-institute-climate-denial-palooza/

Heathme, just look at what the overwhelming majority of scientists are saying. It's like 97-99 percent of the world's respected scientists say that climate change is happening and made by human activity. Stop fighting with science and believing these out and out liars who only want to advance their profit-making agenda.
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Here is a view from the other side:
https://www.heartland.org/about-us/reply-to-critics/index.html
 
LogGrad98 said:
And vice versa I suppose
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Of course, if one simply ignores everything there is to know about the Heartland Institute.

Heathme said:
There are always two sides. I find being open minded to be the best option.
https://www.heartland.org/about-us/reply-to-critics/index.html
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Take a really deep dive into the history of the Heartland Institute, and then get back to me. Be open minded about it.

Of course I know that won't happen, and really, that's all right. People just believe what supports their own position, and then just talk past each other. I'm no different.
 
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Its pretty silly to call yourself a conservative or liberal. If you are on one side or the other you are probably giving into propaganda too much and not researching and forming your own opinions.

There are 1000's of issues in the world. Each of those issues you can take one side or the other. Why would you always take one side?

The entire point of a political party is so that you can get your voice heard on the issue/s you care the most about and are willing to relent on the other issues you dont care about.

I disagree with roughly 75% of the Rebublican stance on issues. I also disagree with roughly 74% of the Democrats stance on issues.

I tend to side with Democrats because of a few issues that I care more about and think that the Republican platform has more issues that I am morally against and think are awful. The main one being that the Rebublican platform is still opposed to Gay Marriage. I dont like the Democrats stance on that either but its not as awful as the Republicans. The government should have no part in defining relationships and I should not have to pay them money and time by having a marriage certificate through them. The other one is that Republican platform still supports parents being able to force their kids into gay conversion therapy, which is find morally reprehensible. You might as well support parents being allowed to torture their kids. Until the Republicans change this I wont vote for a Republican. I mainly vote Libertarian, Independent, or Democrat.

There are other things I oppose from both Parties but not as big of a deal to me.
 
Ron Mexico said:
Its pretty silly to call yourself a conservative or liberal. If you are on one side or the other you are probably giving into propaganda too much and not researching and forming your own opinions.

There are 1000's of issues in the world. Each of those issues you can take one side or the other. Why would you always take one side?

The entire point of a political party is so that you can get your voice heard on the issue/s you care the most about and are willing to relent on the other issues you dont care about.

I disagree with roughly 75% of the Rebublican stance on issues. I also disagree with roughly 74% of the Democrats stance on issues.

I tend to side with Democrats because of a few issues that I care more about and think that the Republican platform has more issues that I am morally against and think are awful. The main one being that the Rebublican platform is still opposed to Gay Marriage. I dont like the Democrats stance on that either but its not as awful as the Republicans. The government should have no part in defining relationships and I should not have to pay them money and time by having a marriage certificate through them. The other one is that Republican platform still supports parents being able to force their kids into gay conversion therapy, which is find morally reprehensible. You might as well support parents being allowed to torture their kids. Until the Republicans change this I wont vote for a Republican. I mainly vote Libertarian, Independent, or Democrat.

There are other things I oppose from both Parties but not as big of a deal to me.
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I pretty much agree with everything you just said. There are about 4 people on this entire site that lean to the right as far as I can tell and it is fun to defend conservative ideas and thoughts. I am as open minded as it gets. I just question things that seem to freak people out around here. I am also plenty old enough to have figured many things out for myself.
 
 
Bawse Dawg said:
What kind of scientific research did you do to become so knowledgeable about the global warming hoax?
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It's more about the ridiculous fear-mongering going on in the news and media as a whole that I don't like. It is also about people like Al Gore that have gotten rich off ridiculous doomsday predictions that have no basis in fact and did not come remotely true. They are based on flawed computer models that all make the situation seem much worse than it actually is.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/editorials/editorial-enough-with-the-climate-fear-mongering

https://www.heritage.org/environmen...hey-want-dismantle-our-free-enterprise-system

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/shameless-fear-mongering--versus-reality

https://nypost.com/2017/07/14/climate-change-fearmongering-has-turned-totally-unhinged/

https://www.investors.com/politics/...-possibly-fraudulently-cook-temperature-data/
 
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