A story about prayer

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You're not getting it. I don't attack religion to hurt other people's feelings. I do it because I think religion is a bad thing. I don't mean bad for me. I mean bad for EVERYONE. Even those who say the only reason they don't go around killing people is their faith. It's bad for those people too. You act like the random categories you chose to respect are somehow morally superior. But how so? I can justify my position on any grounds you wish. Can you justify yours? There was an article on BBC about a rise if child sacrifice in Africa due to re-emergence of old faiths that promise compensation for the sacrifice. Would you have posted a comment complaining about the off-limit subject? Would you have justified those actions as moral? Or is that faith perfectly fine to criticize because you don't interact with any of the adherents.

I am perfectly comfortable with my morality because it stems from reasons I understand and support. I don't struggle with moral issues because if I turn out to be wrong about something, I have no problem changing my mind.

Oh, and I never burnt any magic underwear or anything like that. I've been in numerous heated arguments with all kinds of people. But I never performed the rituals atheists are so fond of.

Maybe it's because of this comment, posted by you in this very thread? You admit to attacking religion. Or maybe it's because even over the Internet I detect a complete and total disdain from you while I don't get that at all from One Brow? But then again, maybe it's just me.

 

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^That was to answer SiroMar's question to me. I don't know how to multiway ore with tapatalk.

 

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That was supposed to say multi-quote. Apparently I don't know how to proofread my posts either.

 

[One Brow]

My response to you was pretty much identical. Down to the babies in Africa bit. I don't understand why mine was tearing you down while his is an open minded discussion.

Partly due to history, I guess, in addition to other things catracho said. While I don't think highly of religious beliefs, I also don't think those who hold them are stupid, gullible, etc., at least not more so than I. That's why I didn't respond to colton's post that finding his part may or may not have been the result of prayer, but he chose to believe it was. That's as strong a point as I'm likely to make on the topic. I would object if he had said it was definitely the result of prayer.

Another thing is that I have said in the past the world would not be better off without religion. Faithful, fanatical followers would just find non-religius things to faithfully follow fanatically. Wars would still arise. People would still hate. Religion is like Silly Putty; it takes the shape and reflects the picture of whatever the holder does with it.

 

[TroutBum]

I don't answer OneBlow's posts because it's an exercise in futility, and as you know by looking at me, I despise exercise.

 

[PearlWatson]

Partly due to history, I guess, in addition to other things catracho said. While I don't think highly of religious beliefs, I also don't think those who hold them are stupid, gullible, etc., at least not more so than I. That's why I didn't respond to colton's post that finding his part may or may not have been the result of prayer, but he chose to believe it was. That's as strong a point as I'm likely to make on the topic. I would object if he had said it was definitely the result of prayer.

Another thing is that I have said in the past the world would not be better off without religion. Faithful, fanatical followers would just find non-religius things to faithfully follow fanatically. Wars would still arise. People would still hate. Religion is like Silly Putty; it takes the shape and reflects the picture of whatever the holder does with it.

I'm sure he thinks it is definitely a result of prayer. I don't see how you explain the voice any other way.

 

[Bronco70]

That **** don't matter. You're judging this **** the wrong way. I mean, it could be that God stopped the bullets, or He changed Coke to Pepsi, He found my ****ing car keys. You don't judge **** like this based on merit. Now, whether or not what we experienced was an "according to Hoyle" miracle is insignificant. What is significant is that I felt the touch of God. God got involved.

And then, predictably, One Brow stepped in and pissed all over it.