A win for the Central Bank and it's puppet Obama

[franklin]

Jamezz, you do realize the Federal Reserve has nothing to do with printing our currency? It's a department of the US Treasury.


On a side note, I find it shameful that the guy who nearly collapsed the United States all together out of his extreme paranoia issues is put on any status symbol for this country. If I had it my way, I'd replace nearly every president on a bill with the face of Ben Bernanke, Paul Krugman, and the likes. I also want Bernanke put on Mount Rushmore. He is a the greatest American since Abraham Lincoln.

The Federal Reserve System is the greatest democratic invention ever. It rivals the Bill of Rights, and Mr. Bernanke (and those giving economic input like Mr. Krugman) utilized it to perfection during the great recession.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

So here me out, almost 100 years later (since 1928) they decide to remove Andrew Jackson's face from the $20 bill and replace it with Aunt Jemima's. Jokes aside I'm sure that Harriet Tubman's influence in the abolitionist movement was remarkable but come on, taking out Andrew Jackson? One of the most influential Founding Fathers of this country, one of the few presidents who had the "cojones" to stand up against the British royal family run Central Bank? Suck a duck Obama, you puppet for Your Travesty the B of England.

Link: https://nypost.com/2016/04/20/harriet-tubman-will-replace-andrew-jackson-on-the-20-bill/

The abomination:

"Of course we will comply Your Majesty"

AMERICAN HERO:

Um, Andrew Jackson was not a founding father.

Just so you know.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I have to disagree. When you called her "aunt jemima" (you meant it as a joke) you brought the racial element into it. Roach merely commented on it.

My question is why would this give you a "heat of the moment" moment?

I'm reasonably confident that this issue has become dog whistle fodder for those with, shall we say, retrograde attitudes about race.

Thus complaining about this is coded language for those wanting to express more explicit angst about race issues but who feel constrained by polite society from using the language they'd prefer to use and which more accurately and clearly explains their true sentiments.

This may or may not include Jamezz.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

First Andrew Jackson wasn't a founding father. He wasn't elected president until 1829, that's 53 years after the declaration of independence. Second **** Andrew Jackson, he committed genocide. Not all that surprised you have a hard on for him. Third *hear*

I'm a bit hesitant to jump aboard the genocide bandwagon here. In this sense, Jackson was a product of his times. While there were people at the time with more enlightened views on Indian affairs, they were probably relatively few and not in positions to affect policy. The overall treatment of Natives by the US government from colonization to the end of the Indian wars was shameful, but, in my reading of history, not unexpected, and most people were complicit in it.

Grant, for example, pursued a fairly punitive policy against the Natives. During the Revolutionary war, Washington dispatched General Sullivan to the NorthEast where he essentially did to the Iroquois what Sherman did to the South during the Civil War.

While I do think that the argument that we can't judge people in different historical epochs by our current standards is often a copout to excuse bad behavior, I do, however, think it has validity, as far as it goes.

I am disturbed by the push by some on the left to, essentially, erase all images and symbols of morally conflicted 'great' men and women, most of whom were as well products of their times. I'm not sure where the line is, but I do think that all of the 'genocide' rhetoric now popular about Jackson as probably crossed the line. He was far, far from unique and was much more the rule than the exception for people of his time.

 

[franklin]

My husband thinks they should have replaced Franklin since he wasn't even a president, I disagreed.

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I missed this post before writing mine. If anyone deserves to be on a note it is Ben Franklin. I erred in my post in that I would not replace Hamilton either.

My opinion is that historical icons like Tubman, national symbols, and events should be put on collectible coins like Betsy Ross, Susan B. Anthony, Sacagawea, Statue of Liberty, & the Peace Dollar.

I disagree with Tubman being put on paper currency for several reasons. First and foremost, it's similar to when the State of Utah tried to get rid of either Veterans Day or MLK day for state employees. Both of those are as untouchable as Christmas, Easter, and Thanksgiving. I don't think something should be off limits solely for political posturing reasons. I also don't think putting someone on currency who has nothing to do with that aspect of our world is honoring them in any way at all. Go build a monument, or mint specialty coins that can be sold at a profit with all proceeds going to some cause Harriet Tubman may have deemed worthy.

 

[franklin]

One final point: I want to purchase a copy of the pseudohistory novel The Creature from Jekyll Island for every poster on Jazzfanz so we can get a few more like Jamezz and [MENTION=643]Jazz Spazz[/MENTION], and Trout's "we ain't nevva lannid on teh moon".

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

I missed this post before writing mine. If anyone deserves to be on a note it is Ben Franklin. I erred in my post in that I would not replace Hamilton either.

My opinion is that historical icons like Tubman, national symbols, and events should be put on collectible coins like Betsy Ross, Susan B. Anthony, Sacagawea, Statue of Liberty, & the Peace Dollar.

I disagree with Tubman being put on paper currency for several reasons. First and foremost, it's similar to when the State of Utah tried to get rid of either Veterans Day or MLK day for state employees. Both of those are as untouchable as Christmas, Easter, and Thanksgiving. I don't think something should be off limits solely for political posturing reasons. I also don't think putting someone on currency who has nothing to do with that aspect of our world is honoring them in any way at all. Go build a monument, or mint specialty coins that can be sold at a profit with all proceeds going to some cause Harriet Tubman may have deemed worthy.

The US is a country in which 50% of the population is female, and a further significant percentage are black. What in the hell is wrong with including women and blacks in the prominent symbols of our country, such as the currency? I would think that creating national symbols that represent the diverse groups of our country, as opposed to one group only, should be something everyone could agree to. Should it not?

 

[Gameface]

The US is a country in which 50% of the population is female, and a further significant percentage are black. What in the hell is wrong with including women and blacks in the prominent symbols of our country, such as the currency? I would think that creating national symbols that represent the diverse groups of our country, as opposed to one group only, should be something everyone could agree to. Should it not?

And if we use a black woman we kill two birds with one stone. That's good 'ol fashion American efficiency right there!

 

[Jazz Spazz]

One final point: I want to purchase a copy of the pseudohistory novel The Creature from Jekyll Island for every poster on Jazzfanz so we can get a few more like Jamezz and [MENTION=643]Jazz Spazz[/MENTION], and Trout's "we ain't nevva lannid on teh moon".

Please do. In return I want to send a copy of the self help book The Little Book on Big Egos for every poster on Jazzfanz so we all know how to best handle posts like this one.

 

[NAOS]

Please do. In return I want to send a copy of the self help book The Little Book on Big Egos for every poster on Jazzfanz so we all know how to best handle posts like this one.

will you send me a copy of How to Apply the Lessons of the Bishoprick to Internet Forums? And, since you'll already be going to the post office, can you also send Why Can't My Silly Good Mood Be Immune To Different Values?. tia

 

[RandyForRubio]

We could have Kobe Bryant on a bill and I probably wouldn't even notice. Do people really take that much time to look at the faces on the bill? And honestly, who cares? There are way more important things to worry about.

 

[RandyForRubio]

NAOS is killing me in this thread.