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Aaron Gordon, a No. 5 Pick?

I concur.

Maybe im super late to the game with this conclusion, but it seems like we are all mega let down that we actually arent getting what we thought we'd be getting in this draft, and thats the #1 option this team really needs.

So as a result we are all trying to talk ourselves into making #2's and 3's into #1's in our mind. Its time for me to accept we likely arent getting a #1 unless Exum falls/pans out.

If can't get the number one and you don't think that you have that guy, the next best option is to play tough D and score in transition. The jazz as they were constructed last year had neither a dominant scorer, nor the ability to d up and score in transition. My ultimate dream would be to find a way to get both Smart AND Gordon, which added to Favors, Kanter, Heyward, and Burks would be ideal for this type of game. I still think we could pry that 8 out of Sacramento by trading a player (Burke or Gobert) a later pick and taking their junk. I don't think the Lakers or the Celtics are high on Smart, but I could easily see them trading down with someone who is, so that is problematic. If only I could go back and cheer for a better Sacramento tank.
 
It would be sweet to get both Smart AND Gordon.

I'll admit I was pretty down on the idea of Aaron Gordon, but the more I research the better I feel about him. And Smart looks pretty great too. Jazz will get one of them or someone else falls.

If they could get both? Awesome.
 
Well you never answered my question, but ill be a gentleman and answer yours:

Being a good ball handler, being athletic, being a slasher and finishing at a high percentage arent the same thing as creating your own shot.

They are certainly great, and traits you want, but they arent the thing we are talking about. His percentage at the rim is amazing but a large portion are from transition buckets, O-boards and hustle plays. Again, i want those. They arent creating your own shot though and you typically dont build an offense around that premise.

Fair?

Well the tone of your post was facetious I just assumed it was more rhetorical. I've seen a lot of highlights. Yes I watched the entire draftexpress.
My point was getting to the basket is a form of shot creation therefore he's not a complete liability as shot creation is concern. Yes he's a poor shooter and that carries over to shooting off the dribble. But jumpers aren't the only kind of shots to be created.
I agree with you and I don't understand why you found fault in my post. It seems like we are saying something very similar. The only difference seems to be you don't consider getting to the rim as creating a shot.
 
Aaron Gordon's Jazz interview was great. He has to be considered for our #5 spot. He is committed to be the best. He knows he faults, and knows what he has to work on to get to the next level.

He isn't afraid, has a warrior mentality, and would give me a little hope he could break out.

I do have positive feelings about his presence over some of the other guys we are considering.
 
His % are probably boosted by transition finishes, which he is obviously amazing at.

Vonleh's number worries me a lot though. He tested well athletically, but are we looking at another Kanter in terms of a slow jumper off of two feet under the rim (but without the mass to create space)?

Athleticism alone does not account for the high finish at the rim percentage. Wiggins only had 63.6%, basically 10 points less than Gordon and nobody faults Wiggins for athleticism.
 
Aaron Gordon talks about working out for us in his own words:

This past weekend, I was in Utah. That was really cool. It seems like Utah has a good thing going. The new coach Quin Snyder was there. I got to meet him before players on the Jazz got to meet him. He was sitting on the side while we worked out. I played well. I shot well, and I think I showed them my versatility. I talked to the rest of the staff, and I think I had a good showing.

By then, the nerves weren’t there anymore. It wasn’t like Sacramento. I mean, they’re there a little bit, but in my mind it’s back to playing basketball and not trying to prove anything.

I’m back at P3, working out now. I have a big week planned. I’m headed out to Boston to workout for the Celtics. From there, I’m going straight to Orlando. Then, I’m playing it by ear. If any team wants to bring me back, I’m there. That’s the grind.
https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-third-diary-kings-lakers-jazz/

Also noticed that he is down at P3, 'round the same time that members of our team were down there. Wonder if they met, and if they liked each other.
 
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Aaron Gordon talks about working out for us in his own words:


https://www.slamonline.com/nba/aaron-gordon-third-diary-kings-lakers-jazz/

Also noticed that he is down at P3, 'round the same time that members of our team were down there. Wonder if they met, and if the liked each other.

The more I read about the kid and hear from him the more I like him.

I've been behind him for about 4 days straight now, new record for this draft. If there is no way I land a top 3 I want him at 5. I think he can become on of the best of this class, with a chance at overtaking one of the top 3 in overall game.


People are talking about his 70% finishing and that definitely isn't just his athleticism. Can't do that without touch. Good sign.


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