Addressing our deficit at power forward

[Ferguson_Mellochill]

Brantley is playing well for the Stars rn -- 3/4 on 3s with an alley-oop dunk and playing good defense.

 

[jom2003]

We are not just fine at PF. We played O'Neale at PF sometimes. He is like 6'4". Green played there and he couldn't rebound. Niang is a third stringer on most teams. If Brantley has really improved then why didn't he get some minutes. Part of development is to actually play players once they show improvement. You are going to have to find out sooner or later if he can play in the Big league.

Quin does not have confidence in either Davis or Bradley at the center. That is why he has cut their minutes. Davis is a HUGE problem because he has zero offensive skills. I rather give Tony 15 minutes a night to rest Rudy. The bench is already struggling to score and when Davis is on the floor then it is 4 on 5 when the Jazz have the ball.

Davis would've been fine if we still have Favs/Crowder at the 4 so that we are not asking our center to do all the big men work by himself. Davis is a help defender, not a defensive anchor. Using Gobert as your metrics on seeking backup centers you will inevitably fail. It's like teams such as sixers/Wolves asking why couldn't their backup centers be just like Embiid or Towns

 

[jom2003]

Royce plays most of his minutes as a 4... the starting lineup with Royce at the 4 is +16.5 per100 possessions with Mike and +18 per100 possessions with joe.

backup needs improvement but Niang is playing fine for a backup. Ed or just backup center is the biggest current issue to me. We can get better at PF but center is the issue imo.

Well did you take into account the number of those Royce/Mike/Ingles minutes were played WITH Rudy on the floor? Rudy made our PF look like a nonissue because he could do two big men's work in one. Same can not be said about most big men in this league.

Having a 6'4 playing at the 4 absolutely WILL cause you issues. You think those teams that are good enough to make it to the Western Conference playoffs will not be able to exploit it?

 

[FalseFlagg K]

We gotta get rid of Davis he is too offensively challenged

He makes Dedex look skilled

 

[jom2003]

Said it before and I will say it again, +/- is such a deceiving stats... We all know Conley has sucked for us and despite that, he still holds an overall positive +/- simply because he got to share the floor with Rudy.

While DM, being arguably one of the two best players on our team, gets hurt in +/- a lot because he often times get put in situations where he had to lead our bench consist of Niang, Ed and Jeff.

+/- should never ever be used as the sole indicator on how good a player is.

 

[Shad]

People know Aminu is out with a torn meniscus right? They actually just came out on the 28th and said he's not healing well either and people still want to trade for him? gtfo

 

[Hekate]

We need a wing who can switch and not be an offensive liability more than a 4. Davis has disappointed for sure but perimeter defense of the second unit is as much a concern. A switchy wing can give us a defensive resiliency and can play with Royce, Bogey or Ingles. Would definitely give us different looks and more versatility.

 

[jom2003]

We need a wing who can switch and not be an offensive liability more than a 4. Davis has disappointed for sure but perimeter defense of the second unit is as much a concern. A switchy wing can give us a defensive resiliency and can play with Royce, Bogey or Ingles. Would definitely give us different looks and more versatility.

That too. Funny how people keep blaming Ed for everything because he couldn't do what Gobert has done for us. Gobert is a privilege/luxury, and should not be taken for granted. Ed would've been fine had him not been put on a team that expect their center to stop everything.

 

[ghsartin]

I still don't think it would take too much to trade for Alfarouq Aminu. He's been languishing on Orlando's bench before getting injured. He's got two more years left on his deal after this one though. He'd also have to be healthy, obviously. He's a good defender and rebounder who can guard athletic wings and 4s.

https://www.spotrac.com/nba/orlando-magic/al-farouq-aminu-6890/

Aminu is only 6'8, which means he is slightly undersized at the 4 -- as Bogdanovic is. He also is not really a good scorer inside, probably due to a combination of lack of size/strenght and post moves. From outside, he has always been inconsistent -- to say the least. From 16 feet to the 3 point line, he has been at 29% for his career (and 33% this season); from beyond the 3 point line, he has shot 33% for his career (and 25% this season) -- per basketball reference. My point is that Aminu is a classic tweener: can't really play the 4 (due lack of size) and can't really play the 3 (due to lack of shooting). He is no solution for whatever problem that any team in the league may have, IMO. I concede, though, that his athleticism is above average and that he is relatively though, especially on the defensive end, but I don't see how plugging him in any Jazz line-up would be a clear upgrade over what the Jazz currently have available.

 

[416Klawzz]

He makes Dedex look skilled

Bro give it a rest .... please

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Well did you take into account the number of those Royce/Mike/Ingles minutes were played WITH Rudy on the floor? Rudy made our PF look like a nonissue because he could do two big men's work in one. Same can not be said about most big men in this league.

Having a 6'4 playing at the 4 absolutely WILL cause you issues. You think those teams that are good enough to make it to the Western Conference playoffs will not be able to exploit it?

It’s the starting unit my man so 100% of those minutes are with the starters. You are hung up on Royce’s height. Hes doing great there. Draymond played center in the death lineups and I think he came in at 6’6”.

Rudy is obviously a big reason why that works, but if we had a solid backup you could run Niang or o e of the g league guys at 4 and be fine. Ed Muck’s up the offense all by himself and is fine on defense but not good enough to make up for his *** offense.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Said it before and I will say it again, +/- is such a deceiving stats... We all know Conley has sucked for us and despite that, he still holds an overall positive +/- simply because he got to share the floor with Rudy.

While DM, being arguably one of the two best players on our team, gets hurt in +/- a lot because he often times get put in situations where he had to lead our bench consist of Niang, Ed and Jeff.

+/- should never ever be used as the sole indicator on how good a player is.

Individual +- in one game can be deceiving. Using lineup data from hundreds of minutes where the +- is overwhelmingly positive is a fantastic way to gauge what is working and what is broken.