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Why is it a pain in the ***? I've read one and it seemed pretty simple and straightforward.

It’s a pain the *** because I’d like to re-grow the seed, but I cannot. The contract itself is easy, and the only people who break it are doing so very intentionally. But yay! **** a company for protecting their product and going after consumers that break their rules.
 
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@dalamon I would love to not use pesticides. They’re rather expensive.

But come up with an alternative to growing a decent crop without them. You gonna hand weed out 10,000 acres for me? I’d have to employ hundreds of people just to do that, and I can assure you, that would put me in a net negative money wise (if I could even find that many people). Unless you and Cy wanna come out and do that (I guarantee you don’t). And that’s just weeds. What am I going to do about diseases? Look man, I work in the seed industry. There’s a reason most organic producers get their seed from conventional growers.

No offense, but you don’t know jack **** about farming, or pesticides, and it shows.
 
@dalamon I would love to not use pesticides. They’re rather expensive.

But come up with an alternative to growing a decent crop without them. You gonna hand weed out 10,000 acres for me? I’d have to employ hundreds of people just to do that, and I can assure you, that would put me in a net negative money wise (if I could even find that many people). Unless you and Cy wanna come out and do that (I guarantee you don’t). And that’s just weeds. What am I going to do about diseases? Look man, I work in the seed industry. There’s a reason most organic producers get their seed from conventional growers.

No offense, but you don’t know jack **** about farming, or pesticides, and it shows.

If other farmers have figured it out I'm sure you can too. Keep beating your chest and saying "you don't know JACK ****", i'm sure it makes you feel good inside. You physically cannot have a conversation in good faith.
 
If other farmers have figured it out I'm sure you can too. Keep beating your chest and saying "you don't know JACK ****", i'm sure it makes you feel good inside. You physically cannot have a conversation in good faith.

Oh really? What farmers have figured it out? I have no problem trying new things. We’ve taken many ideas from organic farmers over the years and used them. Whatever works, works. I just want the best end product possible, that’s my goal.

Please understand that I’m not talking 5, 10, even 50 acre hobby farms. I’m talking large scale agriculture...the kind that feeds the world. How do you keep weeds out on a 10,000 acre farm without pesticides? How do I keep disease out? Certainly different crop varieties help, but only to a point. What would farmers that get late blight in their potatoes do without chemicals? How do I keep insects from decimating my crop?

So, since you know so much, prove it. Find examples. I’m all ears. Seriously, I am. You talk a big game...back it up.
 
Oh and one more.

Why do the majority of organic growers purchase conventionally grown seed rather than organic seed?

Thank you in advance for your responses.
 
Oh and one more.

Why do the majority of organic growers purchase conventionally grown seed rather than organic seed?

Thank you in advance for your responses.

provide a link that substantiates this claim


\I’m talking large scale agriculture...the kind that feeds the world. How do you keep weeds out on a 10,000 acre farm without pesticides? How do I keep disease out? Certainly different crop varieties help, but only to a point. What would farmers that get late blight in their potatoes do without chemicals? How do I keep insects from decimating my crop?

no desire to have this conversation with you when a) you're still lacing your posts with disrespect, b) we've had this exact conversation on this very forum on the upscalability of organic agriculture. no desire to have it again, feel free to search back in these threads and refer to my past arguments.
 
provide a link that substantiates this claim




no desire to have this conversation with you when a) you're still lacing your posts with disrespect, b) we've had this exact conversation on this very forum on the upscalability of organic agriculture. no desire to have it again, feel free to search back in these threads and refer to my past arguments.

LMAO twinkie just rolled over. I was expecting you to tell farmers to smile and politely ask weeds to leave.
 
provide a link that substantiates this claim




no desire to have this conversation with you when a) you're still lacing your posts with disrespect, b) we've had this exact conversation on this very forum on the upscalability of organic agriculture. no desire to have it again, feel free to search back in these threads and refer to my past arguments.

Would the Organic Seed Alliance be a good enough reference for you?

https://stateoforganicseed.org/

Veggie Farmers growing 10 acres or under use 75% organic seed. Growers with 480 acres+ use 20% organic seed. Almost like the larger a farm is, the more difficult it is to employ small scale practices.

Now I’m providing links, and facts to your questions. But you want to say I’m the one that doesn’t want to have the conversation in good faith?! Come on. You bet your *** I’m being disrespectful. You constantly talk about this subject like you know everything, you refuse to answer any questions, and you have a general air of superiority despite your lack of knowledge on the subject. So yeah, I’m being disrespectful because you’ve earned it.
 
Would the Organic Seed Alliance be a good enough reference for you?

https://stateoforganicseed.org/

Veggie Farmers growing 10 acres or under use 75% organic seed. Growers with 480 acres+ use 20% organic seed. Almost like the larger a farm is, the more difficult it is to employ small scale practices.

Now I’m providing links, and facts to your questions. But you want to say I’m the one that doesn’t want to have the conversation in good faith?! Come on. You bet your *** I’m being disrespectful. You constantly talk about this subject like you know everything, you refuse to answer any questions, and you have a general air of superiority despite your lack of knowledge on the subject. So yeah, I’m being disrespectful because you’ve earned it.

So you’re gonna admit to being disrespectful in dialogue, and you expect me to engage you?

ciao.
 
So you’re gonna admit to being disrespectful in dialogue, and you expect me to engage you?

ciao.

This would carry more weight if you were...ya know...actually respectful in dialogue.

You’re leaving because you’re getting your *** kicked and you don’t know how to handle it. It’s pretty standard for you.
 
This would carry more weight if you were...ya know...actually respectful in dialogue.

You’re leaving because you’re getting your *** kicked and you don’t know how to handle it. It’s pretty standard for you.

I hope you upload screenshots this dialogue onto YouTube as “Leftist gets KILLED in debate USING LOGIC” because I’m sure it’ll appease you, and every other total idiot out there with right wing views. Engage you I will not, and respond to you I will not— unless you participate in the minimum level of respectful decorum that necessitates a decent human interaction. My last response to you in this thread, and others, unless you switch your act up.
 
I hope you upload screenshots this dialogue onto YouTube as “Leftist gets KILLED in debate USING LOGIC” because I’m sure it’ll appease you, and every other total idiot out there with right wing views. Engage you I will not, and respond to you I will not— unless you participate in the minimum level of respectful decorum that necessitates a decent human interaction. My last response to you in this thread, and others, unless you switch your act up.

Lol what?

I understand this thread itself is political, but what you and I have been discussing hasn’t been about politics. And yes Dala, I have right wing views. Respectfully, I don’t think I’m a total idiot, but I suppose I am biased. I’ve also never posted a video on YouTube, so I can’t imagine that our discussion would be my first.

Now, just a little lesson before I leave, k? When calling, or asking for respect, and decency, it helps if you’re doing the same. If you want people to be respectful to you, in order to have a decent discussion, you have to do the same...and you haven’t done that to people here in a long time. You’re very bright, but you’ve become incredibly arrogant and demeaning towards those who don’t agree with you. I’m not the first person to mention it, so don’t think this is coming just because we don’t agree. I just want to point out your hypocrisy.

Have a good day.













/you’ll always be my bitch
 
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