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All-Star Sunday Thread

silesian said:
1. This was what the league, players union and owners reported at the time. I doubt that they would all have all been lying.
2. A draft gives the opportunity to balance talent. For example, if the top 6 players are all in one conference. the draft would likely split them between the two teams.
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While it might balance the teams a little I have to ask, for what?

Balance might mean something if there was some type of motivation to actually compete, but the mix and match rosters actually reduce competitive motivation imho. When players are playing "for the west" or "for the east" they have a certain bond and shared team identity. They are playing for and representing their conference. With the school yard pick the players are now playing for... LeBron? Durant? Who the **** cares if LeBron's team wins vs Durant? Was Gobert sitting there thinking "I'm gonna go get some rebounds for LeBron." I highly doubt it.

The NBA ASG was weak 20 years ago and it's just a complete joke now.

They need to fix the BS that is fan voting.

They need to make the game mean something to the players.

There should be some sort of consequence for winning or losing the game. If not then just end it. Have "all-star" be an honor given in title only and don't have the players play a meaningless mid-season exhibition game.
 
Gameface said:
While it might balance the teams a little I have to ask, for what?

Balance might mean something if there was some type of motivation to actually compete, but the mix and match rosters actually reduce competitive motivation imho. When players are playing "for the west" or "for the east" they have a certain bond and shared team identity. They are playing for and representing their conference. With the school yard pick the players are now playing for... LeBron? Durant? Who the **** cares if LeBron's team wins vs Durant? Was Gobert sitting there thinking "I'm gonna go get some rebounds for LeBron." I highly doubt it.

The NBA ASG was weak 20 years ago and it's just a complete joke now.

They need to fix the BS that is fan voting.

They need to make the game mean something to the players.

There should be some sort of consequence for winning or losing the game. If not then just end it. Have "all-star" be an honor given in title only and don't have the players play a meaningless mid-season exhibition game.
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Exactly right.

The only reason for the current system is to stroke the egos of the top vote-getting players. Nothing more. Means absolutely nothing to the sport. Means nothing to the fans realistically, the real fans. However the current format is probably great for the casual fan who has no idea what the name of the team in Toronto is, but absolutely knows who LeBron is. This is for them. And enough of the real fans come along for the ride to get the money where it needs to be. Until the money says otherwise, or the top players ask the league to change it, nothing will change and it definitely won't get better.
 
I really enjoyed the game, but it was a volleyball game at our local university. Those girls can really play! It was at the perfect time so as to totally circumvent the all star travesty. I guess the one positive is there was something like 1.3 million raised for various charities.
 
SoUjazzfan said:
I really enjoyed the game, but it was a volleyball game at our local university. Those girls can really play! It was at the perfect time so as to totally circumvent the all star travesty. I guess the one positive is there was something like 1.3 million raised for various charities.
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The charity thing is something they can tie to the ASG or something they can tie to whatever else, really. It's a nice feel good thing and last year people seemed to think it added some motivation, but this year it seems like it is already played out as a motivator. I mean some charity is gonna get the money and they all deserve it, so it's not like if LeBron's team win the qtr then we save puppies but if Durant wins we burn down an impoverished village somewhere. It's a win/win where either this deserving charity gets 1/100,000,000 of NBA profits or another deserving charity does.
 
What about every player picks their own charity and they get a portion of proceeds go to that
Then every player is playing for something they want and not just for the captains
But they need to go back to East VS West no captains no draft picks no other incentives no nothing
Plus this was proposed by a writer 15 players per team to get more deserving guys in
 
Gameface said:
When players are playing "for the west" or "for the east" they have a certain bond and shared team identity. They are playing for and representing their conference.
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I've seen zero evidence that players have any pride in their conference. Have you?
 
silesian said:
I've seen zero evidence that players have any pride in their conference. Have you?
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I think there was a time when they did. Now that is has become so fully a players league, where the player is marketed first and the team a distant second, that has faded dramatically.
 
How about replacing the all star game with a 3 x 3 tournament of allstars? Make top 8 players pick their teams. I think they would treat it in a more competitive way and make them pick more wisely. It would be something different and more fun imo.
 
Jazzmix said:
How about replacing the all star game with a 3 x 3 tournament of allstars? Make top 8 players pick their teams. I think they would treat it in a more competitive way and make them pick more wisely. It would be something different and more fun imo.
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I like that idea!
 
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