All-Time NBA Draft Final Four: addictionary vs. White Chocolate

[Deleted member 848]

1) It's Bill Walton, he's a very kind analyst.

2) Calling Barkley a dominant defender and a 3-PT shooter is a stretch. For his career, he shot over 30% from 3 twice. He can shoot them for sure, he just doesn't do it well.

3) That's not a slight on Barkley. He was a great player. I think a player with the versatility and length of AD would be a tough matchup for him on both ends.

Charles would absolutely abuse Davis on the glass though. Davis would just fare well in the face-up game, but if he got it going you have a top 3 defender ever in Pippen to go match up with him.

 

[fishonjazz]

Which is wrong. The years we were comparing Barkley shot better on more attempts.

No doubt. In my post I was saying that AD is a better three point shooter than barkley. I was looking at their careers.
Either way, barkley is not a 3 point shooter..... well not a 3 point maker anyway so what Walton said was dumb. Which was my point

 

[RandyForRubio]

Pierce would absolutely torch Harden and the Pippen/Mashburn matchup is ****ing hilarious.

Agreed on the latter.

I think Harden gives Pierce more than Pierce gives Harden.

Harden is an average defender when he cares/tries, and he's shown he does that when he doesn't have as focal of a role on offense.

Personally, I'd put Pippen on Harden and Pierce on Mashvurn. Pierce at SG isn't ideal at all.

 

[Elizah Huge]

Agreed on the latter.

I think Harden gives Pierce more than Pierce gives Harden.

Harden is an average defender when he cares/tries, and he's shown he does that when he doesn't have as focal of a role on offense.

Personally, I'd put Pippen on Harden and Pierce on Mashvurn. Pierce at SG isn't ideal at all.

I'm guessing he'd put Harden on Pierce that's why I said that.

Pierce would give Harden the business on offense and Pippen would harass him on defense. It would not go well for the bearded one.

 

[Elizah Huge]

No doubt. In my post I was saying that AD is a better three point shooter than barkley. I was looking at their careers.
Either way, barkley is not a 3 point shooter..... well not a 3 point maker anyway so what Walton said was dumb. Which was my point

If Barkley isn't a 3pt maker then neither is Davis.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I get it Westbrook/Davis are too big and athletic for Stockton/Barkley.

I wouldn't say Davis is more athletic than Barkley. Barkley was a very good athlete. Problem is length. As a fan of a team with Gobert, you should know how much length matters.

Stockton historically struggled with large, athletic guards on defense. Add in hand check rules, and Stock would have a hard time guarding Westbrook. It's not that outlandish to say.

 

[fishonjazz]

If Barkley isn't a 3pt maker then neither is Davis.

Yep. That's what I just said.

 

[RandyForRubio]

I'm guessing he'd put Harden on Pierce that's why I said that.

Pierce would give Harden the business on offense and Pippen would harass him on defense. It would not go well for the bearded one.

Probably, but you didn't say that Pippen would be guarding Harden. You don't get to change your mind now.

 

[Elizah Huge]

I wouldn't say Davis is more athletic than Barkley. Barkley was a very good athlete. Problem is length. As a fan of a team with Gobert, you should know how much length matters.

Stockton historically struggled with large, athletic guards on defense. Add in hand check rules, and Stock would have a hard time guarding Westbrook. It's not that outlandish to say.

I'm curious what your thoughts on this matchup are (why did you vote for addictionary)?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Probably, but you didn't say that Pippen would be guarding Harden. You don't get to change your mind now.

When did I ever say otherwise?

 

[Elizah Huge]

Yep. That's what I just said.

Just for the record the years we were comparing them Barkley was a more efficient scorer, a better rebounder, passer, and 3pt shooter.

 

[Deleted member 5000]

I couldn't decide on who to vote on this one, I thought the last one addictionary was in shouldn't have been that close but this one....I could have voted for either team.

In the end I went with Stockton because I know he can glue any team together and play D. Not positive Westbrook and Hardin are selfless enough to do so and make Shaq happy

If I had the time I'd enter these two teams in that simulation site.