Hax0rs
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I knew you were dumb, just didn't realize you were a complete moron. Steph Curry couldn't hold basketball John's jock.
Steph Curry > the second greatest PG of all time....nope
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I knew you were dumb, just didn't realize you were a complete moron. Steph Curry couldn't hold basketball John's jock.
Steph Curry > the second greatest PG of all time....nope
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Hotdog
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Steph Curry , best shooter ever, league MVP, NBA Champion with apparently no help, and certainly no help from an NBA power forward great.
Nice logic.
I bet John would trade his records for those things.
Thee Jazz Fan
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Not sure how I missed these gems.
In 1990 Stockton put up 17 pts 14 ast and one tenth of a point away from 3 stls a game. Also shot 40% from three and 50% all together. He also put up these insane numbers for 4 or 5 straight years. All of which were better then Nash's two MVP years. In Stocktons day he never reached top ten in MVP voting. Had Stockton played in this era it's possible he'd go down as even better then magic at the end of his career. And Curry's year wasn't better then Stockton's best.
Go be a GS fan. Ridiculous let's see Curry have a 8 year stretch like Stockton had. Let's see Curry even try to get close to Johns assist and Steals record. Lol. Better then Stockton??
Thee Jazz Fan
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No he wouldn't. He only played for the love of the game. He proved that during the lockout when he said let's take whatever deal and get back to playing
Thee Jazz Fan
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Also. Stockton=best passer and steals artist. Best pure pg ever
Hotdog
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That's cute.
So John never cared to be a champion?
You apparently do not pay attention to how athletes think. Every athlete would rather play a major part in championship than put up regular season records.
And also, it's very apparent you can't judge talent and only care about numbers.
If that's the case then Karl Malone is the second best player ever by that logic. He is 2nd all time in scoring.
I bet no one would agree with your logic. At least no one outside of Utah fans.
Why don't you try actually saying something smart, instead of just spouting off homer speak.
Allen is a great shooter, there have been lots of great shooters. The rest of his game was okay. Is he a top 50 player of all time? I dont think so. I do think he cracks the top 100 though. I wouldnt make him a starter if I could choose from the top 50 players of all time. I am okay with him as a starter though based on your strategy. I also dont think he cracks my top 5 best shooters, maybe my top 10 though.
Klay isnt a top player in his time. He isnt the top player on his team, he might be the 4th best player on his team although I think an argument could be made for him at 2,3 or 4th. He is a good shooter that benefits from the system he is in and the players around him. Klay is not a top 100 player. Maybe he becomes one but until then there are much better players to pick from. Do you think Klay is a top 12 player of all time at his position? Do you think he is a top 100 player of all time?
You have 12 teams so the starters should be pretty elite players. Your bench should be greats. Sorry, I like your team building and I think you have some talent but not enough.
Stifle Tower
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A huge part of having championships is the team that is placed around a star. How long did it take for Jordan to win a championship? He had a lot of failures prior to his great run because the surrounding talent simply wasn't enough.
Unfortunately, that was the case with John and Karl. While it's true neither really elevated their games for a championship run, there were always holes on their teams and very weak benches. Part of that is Larry H.'s fault for pinching pennies. He said many times his primary goal was to operate in the black (not racist, for you non-accountants it means turning a profit). And the other, bigger factor, was the attitude of players towards Utah. It still exists, but not as strongly IMO as back in the 80's. A couple of players outright refused trades (Harper and Seikaly).
Curry had an amazing season and a fantastic playoff run. If he continues to put up high numbers, he might be seen - eventually - as a better PG than Stockton. But John's excellence over the course of nearly TWO decades can't be pushed aside lightly. For one season, yes, it's hard to argue against this year's Curry. For 19 years, let's wait to make that assessment, especially in light of the injury problems Curry had earlier in his career vs. the games Stockton missed in his entire career.
Unfortunately, that was the case with John and Karl. While it's true neither really elevated their games for a championship run, there were always holes on their teams and very weak benches. Part of that is Larry H.'s fault for pinching pennies. He said many times his primary goal was to operate in the black (not racist, for you non-accountants it means turning a profit). And the other, bigger factor, was the attitude of players towards Utah. It still exists, but not as strongly IMO as back in the 80's. A couple of players outright refused trades (Harper and Seikaly).
Curry had an amazing season and a fantastic playoff run. If he continues to put up high numbers, he might be seen - eventually - as a better PG than Stockton. But John's excellence over the course of nearly TWO decades can't be pushed aside lightly. For one season, yes, it's hard to argue against this year's Curry. For 19 years, let's wait to make that assessment, especially in light of the injury problems Curry had earlier in his career vs. the games Stockton missed in his entire career.
Thee Jazz Fan
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U apparently don't understand how John thinks. He even said during his announcement that a chip wouldn't make him any more or less for field
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Stifle Tower
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How comes iPhones never type what we speak?
I'm glad Tomic never came over because that damn auto correct was always changing his name to "atomic."
Thee Jazz Fan
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