"Alternative Facts": Trump's War on the Media

[Deleted member 848]

But Yiannopoulos does it to get people worked up, right? Progressive go CRAZY when someone suggests something as innocuous as questioning the common wisdom of the wage gap.

The liberal establishment bubble does.

So Yiannopoulos takes advantage of that by kicking it up a notch. I've listened to/read a lot of his **** first hand, and once you know how to filter out the trolling and the ego, you can find some insights in the pile of garbage. I also think the media's characterization of Milo and other "alt-right" figures is kind of a useless narrative between good and evil.

Dude went to rallies with the intention of doxxing people, or getting them evicted. I'm sorry, that's a ****-stain move. I don't care to absolve people with evil messages just because they may have nailed a thing or two (Hitler is the easy example here).

Does Yiannopoulos or Maher want society to restrict the rights of any of its citizens? Not really.

Well they use language and empower movements that do, so in effect it's the same.

They're both, understandably, weary of the how mainstream progressivism morphed into a movement that attempts to dictate what is acceptable for people to say or think. Maher is more serious, but Milo is a troll who simply sees how angry people get when you attack their worldviews, so he made a career out of it.

Bill Maher is weary of the "non-issue" that is the politically-correct era, because much of his lame comedy relies on saying things that are no longer okay to say. He is textbook-deffiniton out of touch.

 

[Siro]

The liberal establishment bubble does.

Ya, so political correctness is an issue. For example, Christians are treated very poorly by atheists and other secularists. It is perfectly okay to be a dick to Christians (it is, btw), because of their "history and power" or some ****. Acting the same way toward Muslims will make you the enemy of all that is free and decent. Yiannopoulos sees this, so he goes on Twitter and starts trashing Muslims or women or transgendered people, because joining the chorus trashing Christians and whites is no fun.

Dude went to rallies with the intention of doxxing people, or getting them evicted. I'm sorry, that's a ****-stain move. I don't care to absolve people with evil messages just because they may have nailed a thing or two (Hitler is the easy example here).

You mean his opponents started doxxing Republicans and conservatives in response to Milo being invited to speak, like this time

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/11/milo-yiannopoulos-invite-sparks-malicious-attack-o/

And of course they justified it by making the usual claim about how their victims are subhuman bigots anyway. I am not familiar with every doxxing incident, and I know the alt-right engage it all the time (both sides do). So I don't know of any incidents where Milo himself doxxed someone.

Well they use language and empower movements that do, so in effect it's the same.

Bill Maher is weary of the "non-issue" that is the politically-correct era, because much of his lame comedy relies on saying things that are no longer okay to say. He is textbook-deffiniton out of touch.

Again, their point is that everyone should be able to speak their mind, without fearing for their lives or careers because it goes against what you referred to as the liberal bubble. There is nothing shocking or Hitlerisque about opposing same-sex marriage. Someone who donated to a "traditional marriage" cause shouldn't have a million people harassing their employer until they are fired. It is a corruption of liberalism and it should not be tolerated. We shouldn't have rallies that try to force universities to drop Western Civ courses. As a liberal, I find this **** 1000 times more offensive than some idiot talking about establishing a whites-only nation.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Nothing is going on though. Sweden has relaxed their definition of what counts as rape, and thus the number of reports and investigations has increased. There is also the fact that Sweden's population has increased by about 5% in the last decade, so I'd like to see the time frame for those statistics.

seeing as i am seen as a "low information moron", do you by any change know if they relaxed their definition of what counts as a GRENADE attack!

did they also relax, robbery, theft, assault definitions?

 

[Deleted member 848]

Ya, so political correctness is an issue. For example, Christians are treated very poorly by atheists and other secularists. It is perfectly okay to be a dick to Christians (it is, btw), because of their "history and power" or some ****. Acting the same way toward Muslims will make you the enemy of all that is free and decent. Yiannopoulos sees this, so he goes on Twitter and starts trashing Muslims or women or transgendered people, because joining the chorus trashing Christians and whites is no fun.



You mean his opponents started doxxing Republicans and conservatives in response to Milo being invited to speak, like this time

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/11/milo-yiannopoulos-invite-sparks-malicious-attack-o/

And of course they justified it by making the usual claim about how their victims are subhuman bigots anyway. I am not familiar with every doxxing incident, and I know the alt-right engage it all the time (both sides do). So I don't know of any incidents where Milo himself doxxed someone.





Again, their point is that everyone should be able to speak their mind, without fearing for their lives or careers because it goes against what you referred to as the liberal bubble. There is nothing shocking or Hitlerisque about opposing same-sex marriage. Someone who donated to a "traditional marriage" cause shouldn't have a million people harassing their employer until they are fired. It is a corruption of liberalism and it should not be tolerated. We shouldn't have rallies that try to force universities to drop Western Civ courses. As a liberal, I find this **** 1000 times more offensive than some idiot talking about establishing a whites-only nation.

Will respond longer in a second, but you're doing that think that you tend to do lately-- taking the sentiments of the stereotypical 23 year old, and applying them to me. Question before you assume.

 

[Siro]

Will respond longer in a second, but you're doing that think that you tend to do lately-- taking the sentiments of the stereotypical 23 year old, and applying them to me. Question before you assume.

I reread what I said, and I don't see where I made assumptions about you. But I will await your response.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

seeing as i am seen as a "low information moron",

I'm gratified to see that DutchJazzer isn't immune to some facts after all.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

Ya, so political correctness is an issue. For example, Christians are treated very poorly by atheists and other secularists. It is perfectly okay to be a dick to Christians (it is, btw), because of their "history and power" or some ****. Acting the same way toward Muslims will make you the enemy of all that is free and decent. Yiannopoulos sees this, so he goes on Twitter and starts trashing Muslims or women or transgendered people, because joining the chorus trashing Christians and whites is no fun.



You mean his opponents started doxxing Republicans and conservatives in response to Milo being invited to speak, like this time

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/11/milo-yiannopoulos-invite-sparks-malicious-attack-o/

And of course they justified it by making the usual claim about how their victims are subhuman bigots anyway. I am not familiar with every doxxing incident, and I know the alt-right engage it all the time (both sides do). So I don't know of any incidents where Milo himself doxxed someone.





Again, their point is that everyone should be able to speak their mind, without fearing for their lives or careers because it goes against what you referred to as the liberal bubble. There is nothing shocking or Hitlerisque about opposing same-sex marriage. Someone who donated to a "traditional marriage" cause shouldn't have a million people harassing their employer until they are fired. It is a corruption of liberalism and it should not be tolerated. We shouldn't have rallies that try to force universities to drop Western Civ courses. As a liberal, I find this **** 1000 times more offensive than some idiot talking about establishing a whites-only nation.

Both sides of the spectrum have their own version of political correctness. On the left, it includes being sufficiently sensitive to minority or traditionally marginal groups (among other things), while in the right includes being sufficiently patriotic, including showing expected respect during pledge of allegiance (you'd think the Kaepernick thing was the end of the world given how some on the right were in such full frothing outrage over it) or showing expected deference to authority, partiucularly police and military, or showing due respect for POTUS (at least now that Trump is in power, not so much under Obama).

I think both sides could probably due with relaxing the sphincter a bit and adopting a bit more of a live and let live approach. Way too many people getting outraged about way too many things. I just don't know how some people can enjoy life at all with how easily and frequently they are outraged all the time.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I'm gratified to see that DutchJazzer isn't immune to some facts after all.

another personal attack why dont you answer my question.

did they relax the definition of grenade attacks?

 

[DutchJazzer]

Both sides of the spectrum have their own version of political correctness. On the left, it includes being sufficiently sensitive to minority or traditionally marginal groups (among other things), while in the right includes being sufficiently patriotic, including showing expected respect during pledge of allegiance (you'd think the Kaepernick thing was the end of the world given how some on the right were in such full frothing outrage over it) or showing expected deference to authority, partiucularly police and military, or showing due respect for POTUS (at least now that Trump is in power, not so much under Obama).

I think both sides could probably due with relaxing the sphincter a bit and adopting a bit more of a live and let live approach. Way too many people getting outraged about way too many things. I just don't know how some people can enjoy life at all with how easily and frequently they are outraged all the time.

sorry but you are wrong on the right.
you dont know us!

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

sorry but you are wrong on the right.
you dont know us!

Oh but I do know you. I was one of you for 35 years, and I have a family full of people just like you and just like I used to be.

 

[jimmy eat jazz]

another personal attack why dont you answer my question.

did they relax the definition of grenade attacks?

I don't consider it a personal attack, I consider it a statement of fact. Your presence is a blight on this discussion board. You are immune to reason, facts, nuance, complexity, and anything else necessary to have reasonable discourse. There are many informed, intelligent persons on the right. You are not one of them.

I don't answer your question because I don't give a sh**, and because engaging with you is a complete waste of time.

 

[DutchJazzer]

I don't consider it a personal attack, I consider it a statement of fact. Your presence is a blight on this discussion board. You are immune to reason, facts, nuance, complexity, and anything else necessary to have reasonable discourse. There are many informed, intelligent persons on the right. You are not one of them.

I don't answer your question because I don't give a sh**, and because engaging with you is a complete waste of time.

go ahead keep vilifying the opposition. if we ar enot nazi's, bigots, racist, homophobes and othe revil **** you call us. we are just plain stupid right!