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LazyD said:
Which has to do entirely with the relative lack of infrastructure and economic development compared to countries like the USA.
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Never said it didn't. Just that it was damn near post apocalyptic in nature.
 
LazyD said:
Which has to do entirely with the relative lack of infrastructure and economic development compared to countries like the USA.
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It's also cultural. Last time I visited Jordan, it was hard to believe the driving situation over there. It was so stressful, that I returned my rented car and started taking taxis everywhere. Nobody gives A **** about stop signs (they just do a looong honk as they pass the intersection at a sizable fraction of the speed of light), people park in the middle of the street to get coffee or chat with one another, 2 lane streets are often occupied by 4 cars that are almost rubbing against each other, people indifferently crossing freeways while everyone slams their breaks. It was incredible.
 
Siro said:
It's also cultural. Last time I visited Jordan, it was hard to believe the driving situation over there. It was so stressful, that I returned my rented car and started taking taxis everywhere. Nobody gives A **** about stop signs (they just do a looong honk as they pass the intersection at a sizable fraction of the speed of light), people park in the middle of the street to get coffee or chat with one another, 2 lane streets are often occupied by 4 cars that are almost rubbing against each other, people indifferently crossing freeways while everyone slams their breaks. It was incredible.
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This, I'd add that in Honduras there are also buses everywhere that are so jam packed with people that they literally ride on the outsides of the buses. Also very poor road conditions with pot holes every where.

Every other day there was a article in the paper about someone who fell off the outside of a bus and got ran over a half dozen times till they looked like a paint smear.
 
Siro said:
It's also cultural. Last time I visited Jordan, it was hard to believe the driving situation over there. It was so stressful, that I returned my rented car and started taking taxis everywhere. Nobody gives A **** about stop signs (they just do a looong honk as they pass the intersection at a sizable fraction of the speed of light), people park in the middle of the street to get coffee or chat with one another, 2 lane streets are often occupied by 4 cars that are almost rubbing against each other, people indifferently crossing freeways while everyone slams their breaks. It was incredible.
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Most definitely. I've never been to Jordan, that would be fun.

Sounds a lot like India. Like, what the **** is anyone doing over there? One is constantly sitting in jams due to an accident. There are people driving on the sidewalks, and, much like Jordan, there will be about 10 lanes created for what is essentially a three or four lane road. At least the roads are decent there.

Jordan probably spent all their highway safety money gambling and buying cigars. I mean, he's a great basketball player (I'd say the greatest ever), but he should not be running a country.
 
LazyD said:
Jordan probably spent all their highway safety money gambling and buying cigars. I mean, he's a great basketball player (I'd say the greatest ever), but he should not be running a country.
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Let alone naming it after himself. Talk about ego!
 
Siro said:
It's also cultural. Last time I visited Jordan, it was hard to believe the driving situation over there. It was so stressful, that I returned my rented car and started taking taxis everywhere. Nobody gives A **** about stop signs (they just do a looong honk as they pass the intersection at a sizable fraction of the speed of light), people park in the middle of the street to get coffee or chat with one another, 2 lane streets are often occupied by 4 cars that are almost rubbing against each other, people indifferently crossing freeways while everyone slams their breaks. It was incredible.
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I typically include these attributes as part of an assessment of the level of infrastructure. Whether that is the technical definition or not, I will include the degree of detail and organization involved in the use of the structure that has been built. Therefore, most basically every country has less infrastructure than the US in this regard. Not saying that the US is doing it right either. It's very likely that the degree to which the United States takes their management of transportation via motorized vehicles is wildly inefficient from many points of view. But I agree, the difference is more than just the existence of a paved road with painted lines.
 
dalamon said:
No. You don't care because no one has ever ****ing persecuted you for being Dutch.

Meanwhile, Jewish neighbourhoods steal deal with vandals having swastikas spray-painted on them. Don't equate your plight to those of the Jews.


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First example of racism in this thread. All the other **** is about culture. Culture and race are intrinsically different. This thread has confused culture and race entirely.
 
b_line said:
First example of racism in this thread. All the other **** is about culture. Culture and race are intrinsically different. This thread has confused culture and race entirely.
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Explain? Without a cultural element the concept of race is utterly meaningless.
 
Siro said:
But the term Indian isn't offensive. Most Native Americans I know refer to themselves as "American Indians". However I don't like it for the reason you stated. The name is already taken!
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Most Indigenous People I know take offense to the term American Indian.

And I don't know about stereotypes being constructed by those in power against the powerless. Arabs have an assload of stereotypes about everyone, and I can't recall Arabs having power over anyone outside of those ISIS videos.
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Right, because they create them in a position of power where no-one within their jurisdictions can propose the contrary. Stereotypes are the domination of one discourse at the expense of others. Typically this domination is explainable in a power/powerless scenario.
 
Hantlers said:
Maybe it's different in Canada, but have you spent much time on a reservation? They really do fulfill all stereotypes.
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reservations are just as bad here, probably worse.

Also, the richest person I know is Indigenous. Does that fulfill your stereotype?
 
Stoked said:
Stereotypes are contructed and supported by all segments of society. Used to belittle anyone different.



Edit: Yes racism is a very real problem. However I do not feel every little joke or comment needs debate or even rebuttal.
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It does when the impacts of racism and stereotyping are very very real.

One has to take into consideration the person making the comment, the tone they said it in, the theme of the discussion and who they said it to. Not just what was said.

I agree with you that no one "earns" them though.
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Not necessarily. Even if you don't mean it. your perpetuate it when you chime in with racist jokes.
 
Beer said:
I am selling something online. Big things, that need to be picked up in person. I have a set price and am getting a decent amount of interest.

Person A is wants me to hold it until 7 when they can get off work and come and get it. Has not mentioned price, just that they would like it. Normally I'd just say ok and hold it for them and tell everyone else to F off. The only "problem" is .... wait for it .... this person is of Mexican heritage. That's not really a problem in and of itself as Mexicans need washers and dryers as much as the next race. The problem lies in my past business dealings with Mexicans. I for some reason or another have done a fair amount of dealings with Mexicans via garage sales, stuff sold on KSL etc .... and every time they show up, conveniently forget how to speak English, try to shove half the agreed upon amount into my hand and try to get out and or away while I try and explain that's half or less than half of the price of the item and they cannot have said item until the total amount is in my hand. Its a pain in the ***.

Person B is a middle aged caucasian who has told me she would give me $400 cash and will come pick them up tonight. Now she contacted me second, but I'd rather deal with her as its almost a guarantee that it will be a simple transaction.

I am selling to person B. Am I a racist?
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Beer, are you white?
If not, then you are not racist.
If you are white, then you are racist.
 
dalamon said:
Most Indigenous People I know take offense to the term American Indian.



Right, because they create them in a position of power where no-one within their jurisdictions can propose the contrary. Stereotypes are the domination of one discourse at the expense of others. Typically this domination is explainable in a power/powerless scenario.
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Stereotypes literally exist in every single human culture in huge numbers. Rich people/groups are just as stereotyped as the poor and marginalized. Also, stereotypes are obviously not purposely created. They are an example of a meme, and they spread organically through a culture. I know Marxist slogans are very appealing to 20-somethings, but you're seriously reaching here. ;)
 
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