Am I racist?

[Darkwing Duck]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biological_anthropology

 

[Darkwing Duck]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_(human_classification)

 

[Darkwing Duck]

And the problems arise with assigning race when these two men are NOT of the same race,

And these two people ARE of the same race.

 

[fishonjazz]

but it is a loaded concept.

This
Not touching that one

 

[fishonjazz]

Race is something totally created by society. The birth-giving scenarios you described have everything to do with genetics and biology and nothing to do with race.

The word race was created by society.

The color of someone's skin was not though.
I think that is what bline is arguing. We can use whatever word you want...... he is using the word race...... but characteristics, like skin color, are passed onto offspring

 

[Deleted member 848]

Anthropology and sociology are social sciences. Humans are different biologically. Biology is a hard science. There is absolutely not a single thing iny biology that would allow me to create an offspring with a white female that would be any other color than white, or the slight variation of white skin color.

Yes there is. Black people can have white children. Is an albino a child a part of the black race?

I can not create black offspring, no matter how much I disagree with the way society labeled me. It's just not in the cards, biologically speaking.

Define the black race.



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[Deleted member 848]

The word race was created by society.

The color of someone's skin was not though.
I think that is what bline is arguing. We can use whatever word you want...... he is using the word race...... but characteristics, like skin color, are passed onto offspring

There are people from Fiji who are more black than black people-- how come they're not considered black, if we are to assume that race is reflective of melanin content?

How come I'm not considered Hispanic, even though my skin colour is basically in the same range?


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[fishonjazz]

So b-line is saying that race is passed on to offspring and from the posts of others it sounds like he is wrong.

I think it would be more true (although there would be very rare exceptions, such as abnormalities like albinos) that skin color is passed onto offspring

 

[Deleted member 848]

BLine, I'm a biology student. There is absolutely zero biological justification for race. Race superficially seems to be based on appearance, but do not be fooled-- it really, really isn't, and it can be proven that it isn't quite easily.


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[fishonjazz]

There are people from Fiji who are more black than black people-- how come they're not considered black, if we are to assume that race is reflective of melanin content?

How come I'm not considered Hispanic, even though my skin colour is basically in the same range?


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I agree.
Race was the wrong word to use.

 

[b_line]

Define the race "black" and the race "white" for me, bline.

Who said black had to be a race? Why limit it to that? There are plenty of black people who are very different from each other, but very similar to the rest of their own population.

 

[b_line]

BLine, I'm a biology student. There is absolutely zero biological justification for race. Race superficially seems to be based on appearance, but do not be fooled-- it really, really isn't, and it can be proven that it isn't quite easily.


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I understand that people do not like the term race, but there are people out there who do not buy into the loaded terminology. I said earlier in the thread that the term scientists use now to describe the same concept is ethnicity. There are probably not very many in this world who would say that ethnicity is a social construct. Having an ethnicity and being part of a certain population is absolutely scientific.