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America is great and everything is NOT Pres. Trump's fault thread

Red said:
Too many Americans watching too much reality TV helped deliver up a reality TV presidency.
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Lol, single parent households, parent disinterest, political games, biased media...the causes are things far more damaging than the Real Housewives and Temptation Island
 
NPC D4617 said:
Thats just wrong. You think its all about race when its clearly not. Its a cheap argument. You use it because you see it as a weapon you need to win the argument.

Most Trump supporters are arguing for a free society. One opposite of leftist ideology. Anyone of any race or color is welcome to join. And btw there are plenty of those people. You leftists just dismiss them and resort to actual racist things such as calling them names on par with uncle Tom. I got news for you. Not every person of color or sexual orientation follows your way of thinking. Venture out on to Youtube and listen to some of these people speek. The leftist media isnt the only source of "truth"
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Yeah, sure. Trump's base is sooo altruistic. <eyeroll> Of COURSE the far right's definition of a "free society" means whatever is opposite of what they deem "leftist ideology". They-- and it seems you-- are no better than the far left in the way they tout their ideals and decry literally anything sitting anywhere on the spectrum opposite of them. Trump supporters' "free society" is anything but-- it's about hawkish, xenophobic, environmentally irresponsible policies that "make America great again(?)" by turning back the clock 50 years or more and ostracizing us from not merely the world in general, but our own allies. There's no diplomacy; there's no compromise; there's no swamp-draining; there's not even a modicum of effort to start bridging the ridiculous gap between our two radical political parties.

(To be clear, incidentally, this is not an apologist post for leftist thinking-- the far left, among other things, has amplified our societal dysfunction with the #metoo movement so thoroughly it's debatable whether we'll ever trust each other and treat each other civilly again.)

Where is the center? Where's the moderate, deliberative thought process in our civil dialogue? It's certainly not in the Trump White House nor his constituency. Trump methodically uses polarization, mercurial behavior, juvenile language, and the instability they create as tools to generate fear among his base. When you earlier characterized some of the more extreme criticism of Trump as "...over the top disingenuous hyperbolic emotional drivel... [that is] far from rational discussion or thinking" (and some of it totally is), I couldn't help but think that nearly everything Trump says can be described in exactly those words. If you can't see that, and can't recognize he is doing no good for anyone but himself-- because he's a toxic narcissist, and his presidency is little more than an ego trip-- then it's no wonder you say the things you do in your posts. And by arguing so ardently in his favor, you're frankly just choosing to be one more of his irrational followers-- a well-spoken one, perhaps, but one nonetheless.
 
NPC D4617 said:
There is a difference between disliking, disagreeing, etc.. and calling the man scum of the earth, hitler, etc...

All I see is over the top disingenuous hyperbolic emotional drivel when discussing Trump. Its far from rational discussion or thinking.
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Hyperbole? Have you lived in a cave the last two and a half years?
 
olden_undercover said:
Yeah, sure. Trump's base is sooo altruistic. <eyeroll> Of COURSE the far right's definition of a "free society" means whatever is opposite of what they deem "leftist ideology". They-- and it seems you-- are no better than the far left in the way they tout their ideals and decry literally anything sitting anywhere on the spectrum opposite of them. Trump supporters' "free society" is anything but-- it's about hawkish, xenophobic, environmentally irresponsible policies that "make America great again(?)" by turning back the clock 50 years or more and ostracizing us from not merely the world in general, but our own allies. There's no diplomacy; there's no compromise; there's no swamp-draining; there's not even a modicum of effort to start bridging the ridiculous gap between our two radical political parties.

(To be clear, incidentally, this is not an apologist post for leftist thinking-- the far left, among other things, has amplified our societal dysfunction with the #metoo movement so thoroughly it's debatable whether we'll ever trust each other and treat each other civilly again.)

Where is the center? Where's the moderate, deliberative thought process in our civil dialogue? It's certainly not in the Trump White House nor his constituency. Trump methodically uses polarization, mercurial behavior, juvenile language, and the instability they create as tools to generate fear among his base. When you earlier characterized some of the more extreme criticism of Trump as "...over the top disingenuous hyperbolic emotional drivel... [that is] far from rational discussion or thinking" (and some of it totally is), I couldn't help but think that nearly everything Trump says can be described in exactly those words. If you can't see that, and can't recognize he is doing no good for anyone but himself-- because he's a toxic narcissist, and his presidency is little more than an ego trip-- then it's no wonder you say the things you do in your posts. And by arguing so ardently in his favor, you're frankly just choosing to be one more of his irrational followers-- a well-spoken one, perhaps, but one nonetheless.
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I find it interesting that just because I really dislike Trump (like a lot a lot) that it means that I'm on the far left. (I'm not saying that's what you're saying) I'm certainly not on the right, not anymore anyway. But I'm not a "leftist."

Like I'm sitting here wanting Trump to be out of the White House ASAP, but then I start hearing hardcore Democrat supporters talking about all the wonderful things that are going to happen once the Democrats take control and I'm like, well ****, just as soon as Trump is gone I'm going to have to fight against crazy *** liberal BS.
 
fishonjazz said:
Also, I work 6 days a week and work overtime every week and whenever im allowed too

As always, hack is an idiot

Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using JazzFanz mobile app
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This doesnt add up.

You are on Jazzfanz 62 hours per week.
Probably sleep 10 hours per day. That 70 hours

70+62=132

168 hours total in a week.

5 hours per day eating, pooping, watching Jazz games. Getting dressed, reading propaganda, wanking it, etc.. Thats 35 hours

35+132=167

Thats only 1 hour left to work. I doubt you have a job.
 
NPC D4617 said:
250 posts? Lets look at the time wasted.

Probably takes Fish roughly 15 min per posts he creates. He has to come with super creative things like ****ing piece of **** **** you loser ******* ************* Burks **** Hack **** Trump.

250×15 =3750 minutes wasted

That's 62.5 hours wasted on Jazzfanz. Dude is working an overtime job here.
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There's no way fish takes 15 minutes per post. I think we can all agree, looking at his post history, that it probably only takes about 30 seconds for him to post something.

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