America is great and everything is NOT Pres. Trump's fault thread

[DutchJazzer]

Well, since Reagan business deregulation has fallen by the wayside and now we have all these monopolies and conglomerates that have formed. More and more control has been given to the corporations -- you think that's better, a system, an entity whose ethic is the bottomline? Oh, that's right corporations have the same rights as people. What a bunch of unconstitutional gibberish.

Look at what happened with the economic meltdown of 2008 -- that was because of the deregulation of Wall Street, and despite all the law-breaking, no one went to jail, because the Obama Administration wouldn't prosecute them. Look at what's happening with the environment. And Big Pharma is destroying our healthcare system because of the lack of regulation -- we're the only advanced nation in the world that doesn't regulate the price of pharmaceutical drugs. It's not people like me who think this. These are the facts of life in America today. If government doesn't regulate business, then capitalism will destroy our nation, and that's a fact not a theory.

lol fact?

2008 was caused by the government telling the banks something.

look let's say you have lots of money.
2 white people come to me.
1 is a single parent with 5 children. who dropped out of highschool
and the other is a family man, is married has a wive with 2 kids. and has a small bussines

those 2 people come to me for a loan, you want in the end your loan to be paid back. we are not talking charity here! because we know which one can uses the charity! but business wise. which one is usally more likely to pay back the loan! not syaing the single mom 5 kids no education cant pay it back but it is LESS LIKELY.

ok, so banks/business(not charities) make risk assesment on how likely it is 1 person might pay back a loan. thye have different criteria. somehow clinton adminsitration thought it was racist, because 1 of criteria is stable family other was stable income and some where level of education. so clintons decide dthis was a racist thing to do. and forced the bank to give out more loans. so within this new law, ofcourse banks know they will lose ****. so they lobby for ridiculous things in the law. so they get some kind of protection. it is only normal

after all if i force you to lend money to everyone, you will want something in return so you dont risk losing your money.

ok so now lots of people got loans. so there is this thing socialist dont understand it is called supply and demand. now that more and more people could get loans. demand for houses went up! demand goes up prices go up. this demand is unnatural and caused by the governmetn so it is unsustainable. so now the housing prices are skyhigh,, people start defaulting on loans. that coupled with OTHER influences. caused the 2008 crash


FACT IS GOVERNMENT REGULATION CAUSED THAT CRASH. i know it's a bit complicated and technical for you to understand simple **** like risk management and supply and demand etc etc etc. but these are facts

 

[Red]

Can you say anything good about President Trump after reading this?


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...rn-wd7iL39yFVD7mhSGm3Y&utm_term=.198bdcfd7deb

Yeah, that pretty much summerizes the lowlights of this administration. Everything outlined is exactly the case, and the opposite of the fake reality promoted by the administration's propaganda organs. Washington Post journalists are among the best investigative journalists we have, although that was obviously an opinion piece. Unfortunetly, with the advent of the Post Truth universe, plenty of people are far more comfortable inhabiting their irrational alternate realities. Sadly, the president is content to promote his fake reality and help shape future generations, who will feel safe in their Fox News generated cocoons of conspiracy-saturated nonsense.

 

[Heathme]

The U.S. economy hasn’t grown at a 3% yearly rate since 2005

The past 2 quarters under Donald Trump, the economy has grown by 4.2% and 3.5%

2018 is on track to be the most successful economic year in over a decade

 

[Gameface]

The U.S. economy hasn’t grown at a 3% yearly rate since 2005

The past 2 quarters under Donald Trump, the economy has grown by 4.2% and 3.5%

2018 is on track to be the most successful economic year in over a decade

So it's your opinion that the President of the U.S. is the God of the world economy?

 

[Heathme]

So it's your opinion that the President of the U.S. is the God of the world economy?

Do you need some more data and charts to show the obvious shift in the economy when Pres. Trump was elected?

Obama's policies sucked the air out of the economy and it was stagnant. Pres. Trump's policies breathed new life into the economy and it took off. It's obvious that we are not going to convince each other so go back to your Trump bashing threads and wallow in negativity if you like.

 

[LogGrad98]

ANY country that can do this to a national/global socialist or communist is great.

I'm sorry but I find this very funny. One of the funniest things to come out of this election was when we heard about universities bringing in trauma counselors after the election and cancelling finals. I just could not believe how weak-minded so many people have become that they can't handle something that they don't agree with occurring.

But I guess it really isn't funny. It's sad and scary. How is this next generation going to function if the way they handle things they don't agree with is by canceling things as important as finals (and that includes canceling it for people who did not feel that way, how fair is that?) and turning to grief counselors to handle the fact that someone disagrees with them?

 

[One Brow]

Executive Order 13768!

Not a fan, sorry. This was not a good thing Trump did.

 

[Zombie]

Do you need some more data and charts to show the obvious shift in the economy when Pres. Trump was elected?

Obama's policies sucked the air out of the economy and it was stagnant. Pres. Trump's policies breathed new life into the economy and it took off. It's obvious that we are not going to convince each other so go back to your Trump bashing threads and wallow in negativity if you like.

Not only is he God of the world economy, but within minutes of being elected, before even being sworn, in he was able to turn the economy around. Truly incredible stuff.

In any case GDP growth on its own isn't necessarily a sign that the economy is healthy. Take for example what happened just a couple of years after the last time the US experienced 3%+ growth.

 

[One Brow]

FACT IS GOVERNMENT REGULATION CAUSED THAT CRASH.

Fact is that if Clinton had not rolled back Glass-Steagall, the crash does not happen.

The fact is that unregulated capitalism always leads to cycles of booms and busts, where the rich get richer and the middle-class get poorer.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Fact is that if Clinton had not rolled back Glass-Steagall, the crash does not happen.

The fact is that unregulated capitalism always leads to cycles of booms and busts, where the rich get richer and the middle-class get poorer.

where does this fact come from!

got any historical refrences of "unregulated capitalsim" aka FREE MARKET CAPITALISM!

 

[DutchJazzer]

I'm sorry but I find this very funny. One of the funniest things to come out of this election was when we heard about universities bringing in trauma counselors after the election and cancelling finals. I just could not believe how weak-minded so many people have become that they can't handle something that they don't agree with occurring.

But I guess it really isn't funny. It's sad and scary. How is this next generation going to function if the way they handle things they don't agree with is by canceling things as important as finals (and that includes canceling it for people who did not feel that way, how fair is that?) and turning to grief counselors to handle the fact that someone disagrees with them?

it' is sad. because the left claims to be for democracy. i myself do not beleive in democracy. it is wrong for half+1(the majority) to decide for the minorty and the individual.
but if you support and are for democracy. you shoudl be for it in both times, when the majority votes against you or for you.

and seems like we are at that point now. where democracy is only good when my side wins. so we get antifa. dragging "white men" out of cars and punching them. hmm sounds like wacism to me! we get violence because they refuse to accept democracy.

this will only escalate into a civil war .

that is why democracy never will work.l as government grows the stake become higher. small government who has no business in your live. does not infuelnce you so when a decision goes against you it wont influence you. so you wont pay it no mind. but as government grows it influences your daily live more and more and more and more. so when the majority votes against your wishes. you will feel the government stepping on your throat and slowly start chrusing your throat and like a cornered animal you will start to fight back!

DONT VOTE! don't use your vote to take liberty away, don't use your vote to tell people how to live, dont use your vote to take peoples money!
just be a pacifist and stop using your vote to force your will on the individuals and the minority. after all the smallest minority is the individual

 

[gandalfe]

Do you need some more data and charts to show the obvious shift in the economy when Pres. Trump was elected?

Obama's policies sucked the air out of the economy and it was stagnant. Pres. Trump's policies breathed new life into the economy and it took off. It's obvious that we are not going to convince each other so go back to your Trump bashing threads and wallow in negativity if you like.

This is idiotic. Most of the good things that have happened in the economy since Trump took office have been continuations of trends that began under Obama.

Here's the ferociously left-wing Forbes to tell you that:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckj...d-18-months-into-his-presidency/#197b1e4c1283