American Soldier Murders Afghans

[The Black Swordsman]

22% is only a lower number from that survey. Support is over 50% in several countries. Hell, lets say 10%. That's more than a hundred million people. Terrorism is simply accepted within society to a degree. That is why many countries with large Muslim populations suffer from terrorism problems (not just Arab ones, but Indonesia, Philippines, India, etc).

I don't like discussing Islam with you, specifically. You come from a very moderate community, and you seem... misinformed about how Islam works in the Muslim world. I even remember incidents that were pretty much "everyday things" from my childhood that I now find shocking. For example, I remember one day an Imam's Friday sermon being imposed on the neighborhood through the mosque's megaphones. He went on for 20 minutes about the evils of Christianity, and how weary we should be of Christians (in an area with a sizable Christian minority). 20 minutes later the police stormed the mosque and arrested him. Everyone talked about how these things should not be talked about in public. I agreed. It's not wrong... just private.

Atheists are so afraid of Islam because it is the only religion growing faster then atheism and that it is going to overtake the world as predicted by prophet Muhammad may peace and blessing be upon him and all other prophets.

I'm amused by atheists apologetic's spewing anti Islam propaganda.

 

[Deleted member 848]

This guy probably just snapped under stress, pressure, etc. I'm not condoning what he did by any means, but I do believe war messes people up in bad, bad ways. I just hope this doesn't fireball out of control now.

This is definitely true. There is nothing humane about murdering 9 children in cold blood, for absolutely no reason. He must have been completely insane, and I sympathize with him as a result. However, it is still a tragedy. I really wish America would bring its troops back already.

 

[Deleted member 848]

Atheists are so afraid of Islam because it is the only religion growing faster then atheism and that it is going to overtake the world as predicted by prophet Muhammad may peace and blessing be upon him and all other prophets.

I'm amused by atheists apologetic's spewing anti Islam propaganda.

Man, shut up with the condescending remarks. I love my faith, and I wish that all have an opportunity to experience that it brings to me, but reading comments like these are just infuriating. You contribute absolutely nothing, other than (very poorly) pimping out your won faith, placing a grossly inaccurate youtube video in your signature, and responding to most peoples beliefs in a highly deregotary fashion. Not very "islamic" in the least of manners, for such a superficially pious person as yourself.

 

[Deleted member 848]

22% is only a lower number from that survey. Support is over 50% in several countries. Hell, lets say 10%. That's more than a hundred million people. Terrorism is simply accepted within society to a degree. That is why many countries with large Muslim populations suffer from terrorism problems (not just Arab ones, but Indonesia, Philippines, India, etc).

I don't like discussing Islam with you, specifically. You come from a very moderate community, and you seem... misinformed about how Islam works in the Muslim world. I even remember incidents that were pretty much "everyday things" from my childhood that I now find shocking. For example, I remember one day an Imam's Friday sermon being imposed on the neighborhood through the mosque's megaphones. He went on for 20 minutes about the evils of Christianity, and how weary we should be of Christians (in an area with a sizable Christian minority). 20 minutes later the police stormed the mosque and arrested him. Everyone talked about how these things should not be talked about in public. I agreed. It's not wrong... just private.

Yeah, support is over 50% in which countries? Nigeria? Palestine? What, you really expect them to agree with the foreign policy of the States, a nation that consistently financially supports a country that has murdered so many of its civilians? From the Palestinian perspective (there are thousands of Palestinians here in Edmonton) very few nations have ever stepped up against Israel, and have attempted to do something about the many injustices that it has committed against the Palestinian. In their minds, Osama is the only person who has ever gone up against America. Hence, it is quite obvious to understand why the approval rating is so high. It has nothing to do with religion; it has MUCH more to do with politics. Hence, this approval rating of Osama is an extremely poor indicator of what the faithful of a religion consider to be appropriate, in the name of terrorism. The question posed to the surveyed was whether they supported the foreign policy of Osama. To me, I think the question should have been: do you support the 9/11 attacks, which resulted in the deaths of thousands of american civilians. Regardless, this is just nitpicking as of this point, and I feel like this argument won't really go anywhere.


Honestly, I have spoken with many people who have emigrated from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, Yemen, Somalia, and many others. Edmonton is a hodgepodge of immigrants from highly religious nations. Every single religious muslim that I have talked with, shares the same sentiments as I have in this thread.

To me, if this "terrorism" was such staple of the Islamic faith, then HOW ON EARTH have very large christian minorities prospered for millennia in the Middle East?

 

[Revolution 9]

This guy has **** on all the hard work our military has done there.
He's basically killed some Americans too. With his actions some of our men will be killed in retaliation.

 

[Gameface]

Atheists are so afraid of Islam because it is the only religion growing faster then atheism and that it is going to overtake the world as predicted by prophet Muhammad may peace and blessing be upon him and all other prophets.

I'm amused by atheists apologetic's spewing anti Islam propaganda.

You're like an Islamic version of a born again Christian. How cute.

 

[DutchJazzer]

For example, I remember one day an Imam's Friday sermon being imposed on the neighborhood through the mosque's megaphones. He went on for 20 minutes about the evils of Christianity, and how weary we should be of Christians (in an area with a sizable Christian minority).

Christians do the same.

i have always been harrased to join christianity in one form or another.
now they didnt say judaism was evil, let's face it they aren't that honest. but if they tryor vonvert people aren't those christians saying other religions are wrong or evil.

those so whats the differnece when msulims doe it silam is wrong and terrosim. but when christians(several envagelic, whitnesses and whatever other christian are), are at my door it's okay cus we are evil and need to be saved

 

[Stoked]

There is a huge difference between wrong and evil Dutch. But all these people being cited are the bad apples

 

[Deleted member 365]

I think it's pretty obvious that we're beyond the point of "winning" the "hearts" and "minds" of the people there. We're tired of them and they're tired of us. Time to pull out EVERYONE. If they sink, well that sucks, we did our part. If they swim, good for them.

But to continue with the status quo means more ugly scenes such as the Quran burning, Afghan military turning on their American trainers, and American solider going nuts.

 

[aybars]

I think it's pretty obvious that we're beyond the point of "winning" the "hearts" and "minds" of the people there. We're tired of them and they're tired of us. Time to pull out EVERYONE. If they sink, well that sucks, we did our part. If they swim, good for them.

But to continue with the status quo means more ugly scenes such as the Quran burning, Afghan military turning on their American trainers, and American solider going nuts.

good one bro,,i served both in iraq and afghanistan as an us army contractor.most of the people here have no idea what they r talking about,and im not in a mood or great knowladge of english to write about it.Just pull everybody out,let them deal with their own problems..u cant import democrasy

 

[PearlWatson]

This is definitely true. There is nothing humane about murdering 9 children in cold blood, for absolutely no reason. He must have been completely insane, and I sympathize with him as a result. However, it is still a tragedy. I really wish America would bring its troops back already.

He may have had a very rational reason...like retaliation.

Women and children aren't innocent in this war...they participate...whether through force or desire.

I have your same wish. Our "antiwar" commander in chief should have brought them all home instead of leaving them in a quagmire.

 

[DutchJazzer]

But all these people being cited are the bad apples

thats the point i was trying to make.
muslim/islam has their bad apples
but so does christianity.

problem is when it comes to islam people only see the bad appes because of 911/the media