amnesty players jazz might have interest in?

[Darkwing Duck]

Okay, so there's this:



So assuming Calderon makes $9 million this year (I think that's in the neighborhood) and he gets amnestied, before he clears waivers, if the Jazz were to throw the MLE ($5 million iirc) at him and no one bid more or had a worse record (I might be making this part up?), then the Jazz get him for $5 million a year for the remaining years on the previous contract (2 years) with Toronto paying the remaining $4 million per year without taking the cap hit?

Bidding war is only for teams under the cap, as far as I've seen. An amnestied player signing as a free agent will collect two contracts, as far as I can tell. Since the Jazz are over the cap, they can't bid on any players, unfortunately, as I've found out. All the potential decent players will probably be nabbed before they become free agents.

 

[NUMBERICA]

Bidding war is only for teams under the cap, as far as I've seen. An amnestied player signing as a free agent will collect two contracts, as far as I can tell. Since the Jazz are over the cap, they can't bid on any players, unfortunately, as I've found out. All the potential decent players will probably be nabbed before they become free agents.

Yeah, that would be a pretty big caveat for the Jazz.

This is all very interesting, BTW. I'm glad they built in these controls so that the Lakers can't just pay the vet minimum to whatever washed up stars they wanted to outright.

 

[freakazoid]

This is all very interesting, BTW. I'm glad they built in these controls so that the Lakers can't just pay the vet minimum to whatever washed up stars they wanted to outright.

Almost sounds like they actually did put some thought into competetive balance, eh?

 

[Fishsticks]

Likely players to be released:
Brandon Roy
Richard Jefferson
Rashard Lewis
Bo Outlaw

Love to see what Bo outlaw can do nowadays.

 

[Jazz Spazz]

Okay, so there's this:



So assuming Calderon makes $9 million this year (I think that's in the neighborhood) and he gets amnestied, before he clears waivers, if the Jazz were to throw the MLE ($5 million iirc) at him and no one bid more or had a worse record (I might be making this part up?), then the Jazz get him for $5 million a year for the remaining years on the previous contract (2 years) with Toronto paying the remaining $4 million per year without taking the cap hit?

Bidding war is only for teams under the cap, as far as I've seen. An amnestied player signing as a free agent will collect two contracts, as far as I can tell. Since the Jazz are over the cap, they can't bid on any players, unfortunately, as I've found out. All the potential decent players will probably be nabbed before they become free agents.

I heard Randy Rigby do an interview last night and talk about this. I think he said it was like a waiver wire, as you described, so based on what the waiver rules are, the worst teams will probably get first crack or will win the tie break. It would be nice to find out exactly how it will work, but I am thinking it will be very close to the way you both described it.

 

[7StraightIsGreat]

I would just say no to any wing players (Roy) at this point. I want to see Burks get on the floor as much as possible so we can see exactly what we have with this kid. Don't know what it is, but there's just this strange feeling I have that this guy is going to be a huge steal.

 

[NAOS]

If the Jazz amnestied Okur would they be under the new cap? By how much? Would this amount make the Jazz competitive in the bid for Calderon if the Raps amnesty him?

I like the idea of getting him here, even via trade (since I'm assuming he could be had for pennies on the dollar if the Raps are just gonna cut him anyway... a future protected pick?). His presence would give us a lot more flexibility to either move Harris or play him at the 2 for extended minutes.

 

[candrew]

Love to see what Bo outlaw can do nowadays.

Quite frankly, I thought he retired years ago.

His grandson Travis Outlaw may be amnestied as well.

 

[Jeffrey32]

I doubt there will be any amnesty players this year. Portland will want to give Roy at least one more season especially after his playoff performance.

 

[Qman]

Looks like amnesting a player under contract with another team that is traded to your team is still up in the air.

https://nba-point-forward.si.com/20...-is-unsure-of-amnesty/?sct=hp_wr_a4&eref=sihp

Each team permitted to waive 1 player prior to any season of the CBA (only for contracts in place at the inception of the CBA) and have 100% of the player’s salary removed from team salary for Cap and Tax purposes.

The key phrase there is “in place.” The NBA told me “in place” meant on a team’s roster right now, so that teams could not use amnesty on a player they acquire via a trade made after the league resumes player movement business on Dec. 9. But union sources insist the two sides have not discussed this scenario in detail, meaning it must be hashed out, along with hundreds of other details, as the two sides scramble to complete the CBA by the end of business on Dec. 8. Perhaps “in place” in regards to amnesty-eligible contracts could simply mean “in existence now,” regardless of which team holds the contract.

 

[NUMBERICA]

I don't see why a team shouldn't be able to amnesty a 2005 CBA contract acquired in a trade. If they're going to allow teams to hold onto their amnesty in order to be fair to teams that haven't been ****ing retarded, why not go all the way? I'm not an OKC fan, but if they weren't allowed to use amnesty on a player acquired through trade then they have effectively just been punished for not contributing to the ills of the NBA that led to a lockout.

 

[NUMBERICA]

And as far as my Calderon pipe dream go, there are some issues.

1) I think the cap might be frozen this year from last year. I've seen reports that the cap could be $58 million. If that's the case, the Jazz are already under the cap. If the Jazz amnesty Memo (which really doesn't have any significant cons as far as I can tell), they should be well under.
2) Toronto is pretty far under the cap. Unless they're planning on going nuts in free agency, they really have no reason to dump Calderon. Especially since they don't have anything resembling a PG if they were to do that.

I'd still trade Harris for him straight up.