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The Thriller said:
Did you watch the clip? Candace Owens is mocking America and belittling Griner. She even called the Biden administration, “stupid” for trading for Griner. This occurs Just months after she was “all about protecting women’s sports.” Russian propaganda just piggybacks off what conservative propagandists like Owens and Carlson spew daily.

It’s sad to me that Americans fall for their **** so often. It was always obvious that the majority over that one trans swimmer and trans athletes in general was never actually about protecting women’s sports. It was always about stirring up the base and attacking the LGBT community. Exactly like the recent attacks on “porn in libraries.” It’s not actually about protecting children. It’s about keeping the base angry and keeping the eyeballs on the teevee while belittling the LGBT community.
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Yep, I watched it.
 
gandalfe said:
This is another video that, I think, explains it all very well and breaks it down into simple language. Especially coming from a cis man.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AW0ahfUBRjk
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He definitely did one of the better jobs of explaining it that I've seen.

I especially liked when he asked her the question about wearing wigs, high heels, outwardly expressing emotion including to cry in public, if she associated that with a man or a woman. She got a bit sidetracked because she seemed to actually be hurt that as a woman she was seen as having those characteristics and she saw that as weak. When he got her back to it and revealed that those were considered masculine traits in the 1600s I think that for her and many listening they could finally understand what it means that gender is a social construct.

Like I don't have to be the one to mow the lawn or take the bags of garbage out of the house and put the bins on the curb, or replace the alternator in our car. But I sure as **** know who I think the neighbors expect to see doing those things.

I'm by no means trans, but I've never been particularly concerned with being perceived as especially manly. I do things that a lot of people would think that a straight married man wouldn't do. I do the vast majority of the cooking. I almost exclusively do the dishes. I do more than 90% of the grocery shopping. But I also change the brakes on our cars. I do home repairs.

Maybe 20 years from now home cooking will be viewed as more masculine than feminine, because that is actually how gender norms work. They change.

Trans people are trying to change their gender role. That isn't an attempt to overthrow social order. That is them trying their best to engage the world on their terms in a way that brings them the most comfort.
 
Sardines said:
He definitely did one of the better jobs of explaining it that I've seen.

I especially liked when he asked her the question about wearing wigs, high heels, outwardly expressing emotion including to cry in public, if she associated that with a man or a woman. She got a bit sidetracked because she seemed to actually be hurt that as a woman she was seen as having those characteristics and she saw that as weak. When he got her back to it and revealed that those were considered masculine traits in the 1600s I think that for her and many listening they could finally understand what it means that gender is a social construct.

Like I don't have to be the one to mow the lawn or take the bags of garbage out of the house and put the bins on the curb, or replace the alternator in our car. But I sure as **** know who I think the neighbors expect to see doing those things.

I'm by no means trans, but I've never been particularly concerned with being perceived as especially manly. I do things that a lot of people would think that a straight married man wouldn't do. I do the vast majority of the cooking. I almost exclusively do the dishes. I do more than 90% of the grocery shopping. But I also change the brakes on our cars. I do home repairs.

Maybe 20 years from now home cooking will be viewed as more masculine than feminine, because that is actually how gender norms work. They change.

Trans people are trying to change their gender role. That isn't an attempt to overthrow social order. That is them trying their best to engage the world on their terms in a way that brings them the most comfort.
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I also do all the cooking - occasionally my youngest (who is NB) will make dinner, but never my wife. We value our health too much to let her cook. :cool: I also do most of the dishes - I used to do them all, but them I messed up my finger and started leaving the pans for my wife to do in the morning, and we have just kind of kept on with that. In part that's because I have done way too much research on how to load the dishwasher.
 
It is somewhat interesting to me that the biggest issue when it comes to trans issues is people who identify as feminine. It seems many of the criticisms seem to be based on the perception that males are inherently superior, so for them to enter the feminine space is unfair and dangerous for inferior females. It really magnifies the privilege of males while paradoxically vilifying people giving up that privilege. The narrative is that trans women are doing it so that they can win in sports against females, or hang out in bathrooms and dressing rooms for some reason, or trick straight guys into sex with another male. The reality is that trans women are taking on a massive burden and significant disadvantage. On top of that trans women are the most murdered people in the U.S..

Kind of just random thoughts.
 
Republicans seem laser focused on women’s sports and crt and DEI and stuff

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Liberals everywhere: *shrug* it was pretty obvious this was never about women’s sports or age appropriate books. It was always about making the icky gay and black people go away so misogynistic white racists wouldn’t have their feelings hurt by learning about or seeing things that poked their worldview.
 
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