Am I coming across heavy? If I am I apologize.
THis is just a very slippery slope. Obviously some protections need to be in place. I just think forced immunizations go to far. That is my personal opinion. Take it for what you will.
Anti-vaccination movement is dealt a loss in court.
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Am I coming across heavy? If I am I apologize.
THis is just a very slippery slope. Obviously some protections need to be in place. I just think forced immunizations go to far. That is my personal opinion. Take it for what you will.
Fair enough.
Yeah, since that kid throwing a rock at my kid and damaging his eye is illegal I can handle it through our legal system. Are you ****ing serious?
Then do so and shut the hell up.
TheSilencer1313
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It's all good man.
I think DHS should just start lining everyone up already.
Hell..... you could even set up highway checkpoints where you have to show "your papers" in order to be allowed through.
Oh ****, I think some other particular regimes already used the idea.
TheSilencer1313
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Not off hand specifically.
It's not necessarily the private education argument.
It's the argument that the federal government is completely inept at doing anything for the masses, and this includes education.
It a public safety issue. You can try to equate it to whatever police state bull**** you want, some things are required as civilization progresses, protecting children is one of them.
Hotdog
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How would the kid who doesnt have the measels in your story, get the measels? I thought that kid already got the proper protection by taking the vaccination, and is now safe?
Moral of my story. Whats the ****ing point of getting a vaccination if you can still get the measels?
My stance: All you nosey, commy, control freaks, stay the **** out of my business and Ill stay out of yours. Oh no deal you say? Ok. How about this... Its my right to come and inspect your home to make sure its safe for your kids. I get to do this once a day. Also, I need to check and make sure you are feeding your children healthy food. I also get to throw you in jail and take your children if I do not approve. Oh, you say you dont like that? Why not? Fair is fair right? If I cant be trusted with my own kids, then neither can you, right?
Im so sick of the people in this world who believe it is their right to stomp all over my liberties and try to tell me how to live my life, or how to raise my kids.
Go **** yourselves. Id rather die than give you control over my life.
Shocking to see that Hack is as much a pea-brain as I thought.
"U DONT THINK ITS RIGHT FOR ME TO JEOPARDIZE MY CHILDS SAFETY AND RUPTURE THE CONTAINMENT OF DISEASE SORY U COMMY RATHER DIE THX"
If sensible laws to promote safety in society are too much for you to handle, then please, go drive off a cliff while beating off to this nebulous idea of 'freedom'.
"U DONT THINK ITS RIGHT FOR ME TO JEOPARDIZE MY CHILDS SAFETY AND RUPTURE THE CONTAINMENT OF DISEASE SORY U COMMY RATHER DIE THX"
If sensible laws to promote safety in society are too much for you to handle, then please, go drive off a cliff while beating off to this nebulous idea of 'freedom'.
It's only cool if that kid kills another kid with crazy/retarded parents.
Hotdog
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You are right. I give in.
So can I come over to your house and make sure you are feeding your kids the government recommended amount of fruits and vegetables?
Why not?
Im just making sure your kids are healthy and dont spread sickness to my kids.
Or, are you going to tell me that kids dont need fruits and vegetables?
Also, if I notice your kids are a little wild, can I give them some drugs to settle them down?
Whats your response? This isnt the same thing? Why isnt it?
Hotdog
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Do you have an educational background in the science of vaccines?
What makes you an expert on the matter?
I dont pretend to know anything about them, except that I dont take them, and I dont get sick anymore. I havent had the flu since I stopped taking them. Thats my reasoning. I know, crazy right?
I dont have anything against you getting whatever injections you want. What gives you the right to force me or my kids to do it?
Hotdog
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Its obvious that you are still upset that I won the jazzfanz fantasy game... Damn brah! Chill out and except defeat. And except that your basketball knowledge isnt where you think its at.
Pow! You lost sucka. Deal with it. You sore loser.
Pea brain!
TheSilencer1313
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I see someone struck a nerve with Numberica here.
Do not question the validity of so-called "sensible laws to promote safety in society".
I think we should just pass a law saying everyone has to wash their hands after handling their junk, that way everyone will be much safer.
I expect dogma from you, and you have met my expectations.
No vaccine is 100% effective. However, with the except of people that have large-scale immune diseases, there is no good way to know if, for a particular vaccine, you will be in the 3% not immunized. So, firstly, you get the vaccine to get a 97% chance of being immunized. That's the first ****ing point.
The second ***ing point is herd immunity. When you pool together the non-immunizable and the people where vaccines fail, that's around 94-95% of the population. That mean if one of those kids goes to Africa, or meets some infected African kid here in the USA, they won't spread measles here to the other 5-6%. Even if one of those 5-6% gets the measles, the measles won't spread beyond them, because just about everyone they contact will be immune.
Your kids infecting my kids with a disease is not my business?
The government already does this. We have gotten something like 3-4 visits from DCFS over the past 15 years (part of being a misanthrope is people don't feel bad about reporting you).
My response is that 1) you don't need to duplicate the efforts of DCFS, and 2) how my child being malnourished or overactive does not put your child at risk.
If you really want to understand more about how vaccines work, and why they are important, might I suggest some Respectful Insolence (as in, the blog by that name)? You'll find more material than you can read in a month on vaccines, and plenty of commentators who can answer every serious question you might have.
Throw in the 1% of people who make a choice not to immunize and we're still in just about the same place, no?
Your child being malnourished could lead to them getting sick. Then your child is a risk to mine.
Some child not being vaccinated could get sick then be a risk to my child.