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franklin said:
Now?


And yeah, the superbugs infecting humans are the same strains infecting other creatures. Because our immune systems are teh same as a dog's or a snake's.
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While they aren't the same we both have B-cells, T-cells etc. A lot of immune system is even studied on fruit flies.

You realize there are strains of influenza that can infect humans, ducks, and pigs. The same bacteria that gives humans leprosy can be given to armadillos and vice versa, and it goes on and on. Even ebola is thought to have come from bats. In fact, most diseases that ONLY infect humans are some of the easiest to cure because they cannot be carried by another animal.
 
franklin said:
Now?
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Yes, now. VRE cases first emerged in the 80s. MRSA emerged in the 60s. Bugs with antibiotic resistance are only now becoming a huge problem recently.


And yeah, the superbugs infecting humans are the same strains infecting other creatures. Because our immune systems are teh same as a dog's or a snake's.
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No one is arguing the contrary-- the widespread treatment/prescribing of antibiotics across society creates an environment where the virulence plasmids of these typically-safe strains are being heavily amplified. Vancomycin-resistance only became widespread because of the widespread use of vancomycin when its use often wasn't necessary. Same goes with s. aureus, and when people rampantly prescribed methicillin. This is consensus agreement across all microbioligists-- we really ****ed up as a society.
 
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dalamon said:
Yes, now. VRE cases first emerged in the 80s. MRSA emerged in the 60s. Bugs with antibiotic resistance are only now becoming a huge problem recently.




No one is arguing the contrary-- the widespread treatment/prescribing of antibiotics across society creates an environment where the virulence plasmids of these typically-safe strains are being heavily amplified. Vancomycin-resistance only became widespread because of the widespread use of vancomycin when its use often wasn't necessary. Same goes with s. aureus, and when people rampantly prescribed methicillin. This is consensus agreement across all microbioligists-- we really ****ed up as a society.
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Superbugs taking time to become a problem is because of cattle. Got it. It couldn't be the natural course of species getting stronger or anything.

I also get a kick out of those who think over prescribing penicillin to a 7 billion person population is going to create super bugs but prescribing penicillin to a 7 billion person population won't. **** statistics.
 
franklin said:
What's wrong with these jackasses? Can you imagine antibiotic free people? I don't get the organic movement. It reminds me of those old ladies in the 1960's who refused oxygen tanks because they weren't natural.
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Maybe this will help you understand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WTA_8waxTo
 
franklin said:
Superbugs taking time to become a problem is because of cattle. Got it. It couldn't be the natural course of species getting stronger or anything.
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Both the species & the virulence plasmids have been rumoured to be around for millions-- maybe billions of years. The explosion in the occurrence of virulent strains among humans is 100% an intrinsically human-caused amplification, and you will not find a single microbiologist who disagrees with this. It was simply "the natural course of the species" it wouldn't have waited until 1960, and then SPIKED in occurrence for the next 50 years. Your understanding of this is clearly lacking. **** statistics.



I also get a kick out of those who think over prescribing penicillin to a 7 billion person population is going to create super bugs but prescribing penicillin to a 7 billion person population won't. **** statistics.
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Over prescription has an array of societally harmful effects, creating superbugs being one of them. This is consensus.


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