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Anyone else bummed with this Team ?

Jazz need defense and shooting. Hayward, exum, favors and gobert are the players I would keep and field calls for all others if it brings back either shooting or defense or both. Would also take lotto picks (if the jazz could draft towns and Winslow or Johnson next year)
 
Hayward's the weak link in my opinion. Not a big fan of paying max money to a player who will never be a 1st option in a contender, which should be the final objective. Hope we didn't dig ourselves too big of a hole with this. My hopes right now are on Exum, Hood and Gobert. We need to redefine our 'core' imo.
 
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r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
We are playing the guys that we tanked to get...
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Not true.
Favors was aquired in a trade with new jersey
Hayward was aquired in trade with the Knicks
Burks was a #12 pick
Trey was aquired by way of trade
Im not sure how we got the #3 pick to get kanter but I think it was from the dwill trade.

Basically we didn't tank to get anyone on our entire roster other than exum
 
Honestly, I am more disappointed with the execution of the offense than anything, and I don't feel like we are utilizing Kanter and Favors to their strengths. We are relying too much on the perimeter game with not enough inside-out play. There needs to be a better balance. We run very similar sets (Horns offense) as the Spurs, but we don't have the 3 point shooters to make it effective. I also feel like the first 10 seconds of the offense is somewhat useless, and we rarely if ever get points off of it. Then again, you could arguably say the same regarding the UCLA offense last year, as the screens were only half-hearted and we rarely got quick baskets off the cuts. There is a reason we are taking to many rushed shots as the shot clock expires, and it is poor execution.

I don't care that we are losing, it is how we are losing. Trey is overshooting, and Quin hasn't done anything about it. There are too many defensive lapses, and most of them begin on the perimeter. That said, there are new concepts on both sides of the floor, and it takes time to make it work. I was just hoping to see more progress than I have. It is still more watchable than last season.
 
Jamezz said:
Hayward's the weak link in my opinion. Not a big fan of paying max money to a player who will never be a 1st option in a contender, which should be the final objective. Hope we didn't dig ourselves too big of a hole with this. My hopes right now are on Exum, Hood and Gobert. We need to redefine our 'core' imo.
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"Burke - being small with average foot speed makes it an up hill battle for him every night. His failure to improve his shooting is what really buries him though." OMG this is a guy we traded two first round draft picks for. The scouts ought to be flogged. This ranks right up there with the RGIII trade.
 
It's a bummer how bad we're doing, but I honestly think the biggest issue our guys have is attitude/confidence.

Kanter and Burke might be weak links. Kanter's offense is there, but I don't know if he'll ever be able to defend in the NBA. Burke's offense is finally coming around, but his defense is the same as Kanter's. Honestly, I think most of us loving Burke last year was due to the fact that it was either him, or JLIII.

Luckily, this is a big man draft coming up, so we should be able to replace Kanter pretty easily, and we have Exum on the bench to replace Burke if it comes down to it. But even Exum needs to grow some balls and start playing some real basketball, instead of playing the "stand around the perimeter" style of basketball he's been playing.
 
fishonjazz said:
Not true.
Favors was aquired in a trade with new jersey
Hayward was aquired in trade with the Knicks
Burks was a #12 pick
Trey was aquired by way of trade
Im not sure how we got the #3 pick to get kanter but I think it was from the dwill trade.

Basically we didn't tank to get anyone on our entire roster other than exum
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I always figured that trading the 3rd best player in team history for parts was the beginning of the "tank". Favors, Burks, Trey, Kanter, and Exum were all products or byproducts of that trade.
 
Xsy said:
But even Exum needs to grow some balls and start playing some real basketball, instead of playing the "stand around the perimeter" style of basketball he's been playing.
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Agreed. He's playing very shy, I understand the 'easing' him into the NBA approach, but not to the point where I haven't seen one single drive to the basket yet, without passing the ball out.
 
Our bench is what is really killing the Jazz. I think my eight grade basketball teams scored more in the second quarter than the Jazz bench. We have been buried too many times by our bench players. Our bench has three rookies, Booker and Gobert. A vet coming off the bench would really help stabilize the bench. I do think we are funner to watch this year, but I often wonder what are we trying to accomplish with our offense. We pass around the perimeter for no particular reason way too many times. I knew we weren't going to be world beaters, but this losing is bumming me out.
 
r_u_s_t_b_u_c_k_e_t said:
I always figured that trading the 3rd best player in team history for parts was the beginning of the "tank".
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Nope.
Millsap, big al, randy foye, mo williams, favors, Hayward, devin Harris, marvin, josh howard, etc were all players aquired to win games and get into the playoffs (which we did)

Fighting for playoffs and wins is different than tanking imo
 
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