Are the Jazz going to trade Rudy?

[LoPo]

While people on this board do overrate Rudy i.e. Thee saying he is better than AD (lol), he is absolutely a main component in why we win games.

He covers up a lot of the problems we would have on defense without him.

Most importantly it is idiotic to let him go on the chance you think we could somehow lure another star. Again with what assets and what cap space?

Nobody has argued that. I know Rudy helps us win games.

I do believe that we have set up our entire system around him for better or worse. We seem to play only one way. So when he's out or off, we struggle. Much like a LeBron James team would struggle when he takes a night off. Everything is predicated on that player. I'm not saying Rudy is LeBron by any means, but you get my point hopefully.

I think we can be a playoff team without Rudy. We won't be as good, but I do believe some of our youth might become really good.

If we traded Rudy for John Collins, I think Collins could become that player. Yes, we would struggle defensively with that switch, but long term, I think we could be better than we are today. I'm not advocating for losing Rudy for nothing. I'm advocating for a trade if he wants anything near supermax.

 

[One Brow]

I think Donovan is a generational talent. He is a franchise guy.

Generational talents make All-NBA Teams within 3 years. Mitchell has not. He's very talented, and may make one or two in the future, but he's not there yet.

Losing Rudy doesn't mean we lose everything. People need to calm down.

Losing Rudy means we lose our best player, a multi-year All-NBA and DPOY. We would not be able to replace him with equivalent talent.

 

[Jazz4ever]

And this is the classic example of why team's without top 10 players have tiny little championship windows. Rudy at 35% of the cap is winning nothing championship wise.

 

[slc]

So would anyone trade Rudy and Conley for Harden?

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

And this is the classic example of why team's without top 10 players have tiny little championship windows. Rudy at 35% of the cap is winning nothing championship wise.

What if the other 65% of the cap goes to Luka and Lebron?

The question is not will Rudy win is a title if we keep him at 30 or 35% of the cap. The question is what else does that cap number buy and is that better than Rudy?

If Joe/Bojan/JC eat 40% of the cap is that a better or worse use cap?

Only a few teams get to win titles each decade. Would be nice to get in the mix but it’s hard. We have a chance to go to the conference finals... from there we need luck... Rudy leaving leaves us worse than that imo.

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

So would anyone trade Rudy and Conley for Harden?

Hell no... we have a primary ball handler and there is a diminishing return with him. I also just hate everything about him.

 

[Getting Traded]

Rudy definitely can catch passes but they have to be high, not bounce passes or below the waist.

 

[whatthe]

Niang throws the best lobs, by far...by the way!

 

[Handlogten's Heros]

Niang throws the best lobs, by far...by the way!

Those are just wayward floaters.

 

[Jazz4ever]

What if the other 65% of the cap goes to Luka and Lebron?

The question is not will Rudy win is a title if we keep him at 30 or 35% of the cap. The question is what else does that cap number buy and is that better than Rudy?

If Joe/Bojan/JC eat 40% of the cap is that a better or worse use cap?

Only a few teams get to win titles each decade. Would be nice to get in the mix but it’s hard. We have a chance to go to the conference finals... from there we need luck... Rudy leaving leaves us worse than that imo.

My statement was for teams without top 10 players, obviously Luka and Lebron are top 10.

 

[Jazzmix]

Wanting to win and thinking him getting the ball at the rim more will help is apparently diva ****.

The amount of dirty work he does that doesn’t get noticed or appreciated likely finally got to him a little and so he complained a bit... even the fans on this site look at his raw numbers and don’t appreciate what he does.

Rudy is certainly not a diva but he is definitely immature at times. Sorry but crying in public over allstar snub was not a mature reaction. I ve been always a big soccer fan and there is that one Bayern Munich player - Lewandowski, top striker, who has just been awarded best FIFA player of the year. He is not so flashy as Messi or Ronaldo but is super efficient and in the same top tier. Two years ago he was voted only like 16th in Golden Ball plebiscite (best player award, which is a bit like MVP voting). He just commented it with some sarcastic joke because he is super confident and knows his value. I would like Rudy to have the same attitude. That whole touching the mics Rudy did was also childish thing. I still love him as a player and hope he stays here but I don't think he is an easy teammate.

 

[hawkeye]

Rudy is certainly not a diva but he is definitely immature at times. Sorry but crying in public over allstar snub was not a mature reaction. I ve been always a big soccer fan and there is that one Bayern Munich player - Lewandowski, top striker, who has just been awarded best FIFA player of the year. He is not so flashy as Messi or Ronaldo but is super efficient and in the same top tier. Two years ago he was voted only like 16th in Golden Ball plebiscite (best player award, which is a bit like MVP voting). He just commented it with some sarcastic joke because he is super confident and knows his value. I would like Rudy to have the same attitude. That whole touching the mics Rudy did was also childish thing. I still love him as a player and hope he stays here but I don't think he is an easy teammate.

Soccer is lame.