Since I refuse to wear anything associated with Nike, I was forced to buy "And 1" shorts. At 6'3" 240+, I need 'em long and strong. I like the "And 1" brand, they last, and they're not too expensive. The hard part is picking the stitching to remove all of their gay-*** logos. Ya, I'm like the guy who buys an old piece of **** Civic, takes off any/all markers, decals, or symbols, adds a three-toned body kit and 4 donut tires. Boo ya. If the shorts aren't at least two inches below the knee, they're way too short. Like others, I'm in ball shorts 80% of my life.