BasketballInsiders: Rudy Gobert is Ahead of Schedule

[Stoked]

Ok are you absolutely positively sure the next Duncan, Jordan, Kobe or James is in the upcoming draft?

No, but I am absolutely positive that they are not coming thru free agency. I will take a a chance over no chance any day.

 

[Jamezz]

D'Angelo ****ing Russell

Thank you for providing a specific name. Guess I'll have to check him out if it's so 'obvious'.

 

[freakazoid]

Really! I get really weary of "Tank for player X" If you will all just re-read or remember all the posts about "tank for this guy, or tank for that guy" and realize that you were all wrong. Tanking is a state of mind that exists in the minds of average fans who are without any real talent for improving an NBA team. The Jazz players of last year and this year were not tanking nor will they be. When a team gets so bad that they lose any competitive edge or desire then the fans jump up and say they are tanking! Its a myth! And the league would frown upon such a thing if it could be proven, as they should.

Please refer to us as pro-winning culture fans instead please.
Thank you.

I don't believe that to be accurate. At best, you are the mediocrity culture fans, but since you prefer to lose a lot in the future just to get a couple extra immediate wins, it could be said that you are pro-losing in the future, or future losers.

 

[silesian]

Is there anyone who doesn't think Rudy is going to roll out a 10 foot jumper by the start of next season?

More excited about the jump hook

 

[Jamezz]

I don't believe that to be accurate. At best, you are the mediocrity culture fans, but since you prefer to lose a lot in the future just to get a couple extra immediate wins, it could be said that you are pro-losing in the future, or future losers.

Nice try Freak, you didn't come around soon enough to drop one of your 'gems'.

 

[hawkeye]

San Antonio acquiring Duncan.

Cleveland sucking to get LeBron, Irving etc.

New Orleans getting Davis after parting ways with CP3.

OKC continually sucking to get Durant, Westbrook, and Harden.

Every team sucked at some point to get their star players.

All these examples prove two things:

1. Sucking for a period of time does not create a losing culture that the team can't recover from.

2. Just about every team gets their franchise player via the draft, and usually toward the very top of it.

You could also add the clippers to that list to get Blake Griffin.

 

[Siro]

I don't believe that to be accurate. At best, you are the mediocrity culture fans, but since you prefer to lose a lot in the future just to get a couple extra immediate wins, it could be said that you are pro-losing in the future, or future losers.

Why stop with next year's pick? Why not tank for another year or two? Why is tanking for a higher lotto pick better than sticking with what we have and focusing on adding a couple of solid vets, or pooling our assets for an impact player? What if we tank for a player that doesn't pan out? What if an extended rebuilding process causes some of the players we developed to leave for greener pastures? There are a million what ifs, and I don't get your insistence that anyone who doesn't share your exact vision of the rebuild process is pro-losing . We already have a core that can develop into a contender, and the draft is not the only way to add the one or two players we still need to get where we want to be.

 

[Jazz4ever]

I don't really want Rudy shooting 10' jumpers, we've got enough poor 30-40% jump shooters already. He is basically at the rim with his reach, might as well develop a drop step or something to get there where he can also

a.) potentially get fouled
b.) get a rebound in case of a miss

 

[silesian]

I don't really want Rudy shooting 10' jumpers, we've got enough poor 30-40% jump shooters already. He is basically at the rim with his reach, might as well develop a drop step or something to get there where he can also

a.) potentially get fouled
b.) get a rebound in case of a miss

Why do you pose this as a choice between a 10 ft jump shot and a drop step. They are complementary. And why do you believe that he can't get his own rebound on a 10 foot jumper?

 

[silesian]

The Jazz players of last year and this year were not tanking nor will they be. When a team gets so bad that they lose any competitive edge or desire then the fans jump up and say they are tanking! Its a myth! And the league would frown upon such a thing if it could be proven, as they should.

You are altering the concept of tanking to support your argument. Tanking is when general management accumulates assets to win at some future point, and prioritizes future assets over putting assets on the floor in the current season, thereby accumulating future valuable assets via higher draft picks. Tanking is not players throwing games, so your argument is specious.

 

[silesian]

. We already have a core that can develop into a contender,./QUOTE] I

f you are correct, than we should follow your strategy. There are folks who think that your assumption is not a certainty.

 

[freakazoid]

You are altering the concept of tanking to support your argument. Tanking is when general management accumulates assets to win at some future point, and prioritizes future assets over putting assets on the floor in the current season, thereby accumulating future valuable assets via higher draft picks. Tanking is not players throwing games, so your argument is specious.

Please post more often.