Baton Rouge Police Killing a 37-year-old black man at point blank range

[Saint Cy of JFC]

An inconvenient truth that we might be waking up to is when you look at the wealth distribution of this country...

Some scrub in the NBA this offseason will make in just one season more than all the cops and teachers in this nation combined.

When we pay teacher and police officers crap. Take away their pensions and benefits. Don't be surprised if you get people completely unable to do any other job.

Raise their pay so much that it actually attracts a higher quality candidate. Someone not so quick to the trigger.

Yeah cops really deserve pay raises for their recent performance. Cops are right now an equivalent of Raja Bell's last season in Utah.

 

[fishonjazz]

Damn what did you do?

I will send you a pm

 

[bigb]

Also another case of police shooting thinking the victims were 'pulling out' the gun....



Which makes me wonder...



Is it good or bad if more and more people are carrying around guns? Does it make the police's job easier or harder? Does it make the police more or less paranoia? Does it make the street more or less dangerous? Would it lead to more or less of these killings?

So I got pulled over the other day for a bad brake light. I carry on my right hip. My wallet with my driver's license is in back right pocket. I had no idea why I was getting pulled over. I waited until the officer for to my window before doing anything other than window down. The officer asked for my DL. I explained I was carrying and the relation wallet and explained that he wouldn't be able to get to it very easily with me sitting. He simply asked me to slowly get out of the vehicle. I did, and he retrieved my handgun. The traffic stop continued like normal and at the end, he returned my gun. I'm still alive.
Now, I'm a white dude in a white area. I was also taught to treat others with respect. What is the difference between my situation and this one in Baton Rouge? I listened to the cop and treated him with respect. Could it be that simple?

 

[fishonjazz]

Damn what did you do?

I will send you a pm

Sent a text instead.
Jazzfanz app is acting up right now

 

[UGLI baby]

I wanna know what you did too Fishbro.

Did you make him drink 5 brass monkeys in less than an hour??

 

[fishonjazz]

So I got pulled over the other day for a bad brake light. I carry on my right hip. My wallet with my driver's license is in back right pocket. I had no idea why I was getting pulled over. I waited until the officer for to my window before doing anything other than window down. The officer asked for my DL. I explained I was carrying and the relation wallet and explained that he wouldn't be able to get to it very easily with me sitting. He simply asked me to slowly get out of the vehicle. I did, and he retrieved my handgun. The traffic stop continued like normal and at the end, he returned my gun. I'm still alive.
Now, I'm a white dude in a white area. I was also taught to treat others with respect. What is the difference between my situation and this one in Baton Rouge? I listened to the cop and treated him with respect. Could it be that simple?

Could be that not every cop is an a-hole. Could be that you are white and live in an area that isn't too dangerous.

If you watch the video about what happened in Minnesota it seems that the dude was carrying and had a permit and told the cop he had a weapon and when he went to get his ID he was shot 4 times. Then as he was laying there slowly dying the cop just kept his gun on him rather than actually trying to help the dying man.

Some cops don't care if you are respectful.

And not being respectful to a cop is not reason enough for the cop to shoot you or otherwise use what is obviously to much force for the situation.

 

[fishonjazz]

I wanna know what you did too Fishbro.

Did you make him drink 5 brass monkeys in less than an hour??

I will just say that I found out where he lived damaged his property and leave it at that.

I should not have got revenge though. I have felt bad about it for a long time.

The cop ended up getting fired for the way he treated my friend. There were way too many witnesses for that one. (He was one of the full time cops who worked at my high school)

 

[Deleted member 848]

So I got pulled over the other day for a bad brake light. I carry on my right hip. My wallet with my driver's license is in back right pocket. I had no idea why I was getting pulled over. I waited until the officer for to my window before doing anything other than window down. The officer asked for my DL. I explained I was carrying and the relation wallet and explained that he wouldn't be able to get to it very easily with me sitting. He simply asked me to slowly get out of the vehicle. I did, and he retrieved my handgun. The traffic stop continued like normal and at the end, he returned my gun. I'm still alive.
Now, I'm a white dude in a white area. I was also taught to treat others with respect. What is the difference between my situation and this one in Baton Rouge? I listened to the cop and treated him with respect. Could it be that simple?

You really need to get out there and talk to some of your black peers in terms of how they get along with the police.

 

[bigb]

Could be that not every cop is an a-hole. Could be that you are white and live in an area that isn't too dangerous.

If you watch the video about what happened in Minnesota it seems that the dude was carrying and had a permit and told the cop he had a weapon and when he went to get his ID he was shot 4 times. Then as he was laying there slowly dying the cop just kept his gun on him rather than actually trying to help the dying man.

Some cops don't care if you are respectful.

And not being respectful to a cop is not reason enough for the cop to shoot you or otherwise use what is obviously to much force for the situation.

I agree with all of that. But, to me, to automatically go to the race card is too easy. I'm not saying it isn't a factor in a lot of these situations, but it's also not a favor in every situation.

 

[bigb]

You really need to get out there and talk to some of your black peers in terms of how they get along with the police.

My "black peers" or my "Polynesian peers" (who I simply call "friends") don't seem to have an issue with police. We've had this discussion before.
I don't deny there is a race issue or a "poor" issue. But that doesn't automatically make an issue EVERY time. I would wager a year's salary that the vast majority of these situations are people being dumb with the police by fighting, disobeying, spitting, or whatever. Their fear, lack of respect, or whatever may have deep-seated roots which may or may not be justified. But if you don't want the guy with the gun to shoot you, do what he says.

 

[Stoked]

Yeah cops really deserve pay raises for their recent performance. Cops are right now an equivalent of Raja Bell's last season in Utah.

This completely misses the point he made. Which is super funny because he actually has one for once.

 

[fishonjazz]

I agree with all of that. But, to me, to automatically go to the race card is too easy. I'm not saying it isn't a factor in a lot of these situations, but it's also not a favor in every situation.

Agreed. Sometimes a black person (or white person) act's in a way that they deserve severe force from the cops. Yet even in those cases the race card often gets pulled.