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Team Spycam1:
PG- Gary Payton / Deron Williams
SG- Dwyane Wade / Ray Allen
SF- Grant Hill / Glen Rice
PF- Charles Barkley / Rashard Lewis
C- Hakeem Olajuwon / Dikembe Mutumbo
Team Hack:
PG- Tony Parker / Russell Westbrook
SG- Reggie Miller / Vince Carter
SF- Kevin Durant / Tracy McGrady
PF- Karl Malone / Amar'e Stoudemire
C- Patrick Ewing / Dwight Howard
Spy's write-up:
Hakeem + Barkley > Ewing + Malone
You'll find plenty of people out there who consider Barkley better than Malone, but you'd be hard pressed to find even a Knicks fan who thinks Ewing is better than Hakeem. Or anywhere near Hakeem for that matter.
Poor Ewing.
This is the #1 center ever paired with a top 3 PF going up against another top 3 PF and someone who isn't even a top 5 or 6 center. My team is better down low, without a doubt.
This goes to Payton, obviously. Defense wins championships and Payton was the best PG ever at that. Payton is the only PG to win DPOY, where as Parker has never even made an All-Defensive team.
And it's not like Payton was just a defender. Look at this season by him:
24.2 PPG / 8.9 APG / 6.5 RPG / 1.9 SPG
(in this season he also lead the league in 3's made)
This one also goes to Wade, hands down. Wade is a Finals MVP, and 3 time Champion. He's the 3rd best SG ever.
Miller was good, but he never won a ring, let alone a Finals MVP. Even statistically he was simply not on the same level as Wade. Look at this season by Wade:
30.2 PPG / 7.5 APG / 5.0 RPG / 2.2 SPG / 1.3 BPG
And he's a fantastic defender. Arguably the greatest shot-blocking guard of all time, and has made 3 All-Defensive Teams.
Oh, and Wade has the highest recorded PER for a Finals series in history.
Also, my BACK UP SG, is a even a wash with Miller.
Durant is awesome, but so was Hill in his prime. A few fun facts about Hill:
-Only Larry Bird, Oscar Robertson, and LeBron James accumulated as many points, rebounds and assists as Grant Hill in their first six seasons.
-Grant Hill averaged more assists and rebounds than LeBron James during their first four seasons.
Look at some of these seasons by Hill:
25.8 PPG / 6.6 RPG / 5.2 APG
21.4 PPG / 9.0 RPG / 7.3 APG
And unlike other players who put up big numbers, like T-Mac and VC, Grant Hill was thought to have the intangibles of a true star.
Hill could certainly go head-to-head with Durant, and I think it would vary from night to night on who would win this match up.
And even though they aren't matched up against each other, I just want to say that my best perimeter player (Wade) is just as good as Hack's (Durant). Probably even better. Wade can score just as much as Durant, he's a far better passer, a better defender, even better closer, and has the hardware to prove it.
I have the better 6th man in Ray Allen. He's basically the exact same player as Hack's STARTING SG.
I have the 2nd all time leading shot blocker and 4X DPOY in Mutumbo to go along with the scariest group of 3 point shooters possible with Ray Allen, Glen Rice, and Rashard Lewis. Not to mention an actual true floor general, unlike Westbrook, in Deron Williams.
Overall, Hack's bench is filled with players who completely lack intangibles. They aren't winners. They're empty calories.
I feel my bench adds more dimensions to my team and helps round out the roster. It's not just a group of athletic players who could put up stats.
-I have the best player of the series in Hakeem Olajuwon
-My team is better down low
-My team is better on the boards
-My team is better defensively; the 3 best defenders of the series are on my team (Hakeem, Payton, Mutumbo)
-My team has better closers with Hakeem, Wade, and Ray Allen.
-My team has a better bench
-My team has more deadly 3 point shooters to spread the floor
-My team has proven winners. Hack has ONE player who has ever won a ring. One!!
PG- Gary Payton / Deron Williams
SG- Dwyane Wade / Ray Allen
SF- Grant Hill / Glen Rice
PF- Charles Barkley / Rashard Lewis
C- Hakeem Olajuwon / Dikembe Mutumbo
Team Hack:
PG- Tony Parker / Russell Westbrook
SG- Reggie Miller / Vince Carter
SF- Kevin Durant / Tracy McGrady
PF- Karl Malone / Amar'e Stoudemire
C- Patrick Ewing / Dwight Howard
Spy's write-up:
Down Low
Hakeem + Barkley > Ewing + Malone
You'll find plenty of people out there who consider Barkley better than Malone, but you'd be hard pressed to find even a Knicks fan who thinks Ewing is better than Hakeem. Or anywhere near Hakeem for that matter.
Poor Ewing.
This is the #1 center ever paired with a top 3 PF going up against another top 3 PF and someone who isn't even a top 5 or 6 center. My team is better down low, without a doubt.
Payton vs Parker
This goes to Payton, obviously. Defense wins championships and Payton was the best PG ever at that. Payton is the only PG to win DPOY, where as Parker has never even made an All-Defensive team.
And it's not like Payton was just a defender. Look at this season by him:
24.2 PPG / 8.9 APG / 6.5 RPG / 1.9 SPG
(in this season he also lead the league in 3's made)
Wade vs Miller
This one also goes to Wade, hands down. Wade is a Finals MVP, and 3 time Champion. He's the 3rd best SG ever.
Miller was good, but he never won a ring, let alone a Finals MVP. Even statistically he was simply not on the same level as Wade. Look at this season by Wade:
30.2 PPG / 7.5 APG / 5.0 RPG / 2.2 SPG / 1.3 BPG
And he's a fantastic defender. Arguably the greatest shot-blocking guard of all time, and has made 3 All-Defensive Teams.
Oh, and Wade has the highest recorded PER for a Finals series in history.
Also, my BACK UP SG, is a even a wash with Miller.
Hill vs Durant
Durant is awesome, but so was Hill in his prime. A few fun facts about Hill:
-Only Larry Bird, Oscar Robertson, and LeBron James accumulated as many points, rebounds and assists as Grant Hill in their first six seasons.
-Grant Hill averaged more assists and rebounds than LeBron James during their first four seasons.
Look at some of these seasons by Hill:
25.8 PPG / 6.6 RPG / 5.2 APG
21.4 PPG / 9.0 RPG / 7.3 APG
And unlike other players who put up big numbers, like T-Mac and VC, Grant Hill was thought to have the intangibles of a true star.
Hill could certainly go head-to-head with Durant, and I think it would vary from night to night on who would win this match up.
And even though they aren't matched up against each other, I just want to say that my best perimeter player (Wade) is just as good as Hack's (Durant). Probably even better. Wade can score just as much as Durant, he's a far better passer, a better defender, even better closer, and has the hardware to prove it.
The Bench
I have the better 6th man in Ray Allen. He's basically the exact same player as Hack's STARTING SG.
I have the 2nd all time leading shot blocker and 4X DPOY in Mutumbo to go along with the scariest group of 3 point shooters possible with Ray Allen, Glen Rice, and Rashard Lewis. Not to mention an actual true floor general, unlike Westbrook, in Deron Williams.
Overall, Hack's bench is filled with players who completely lack intangibles. They aren't winners. They're empty calories.
I feel my bench adds more dimensions to my team and helps round out the roster. It's not just a group of athletic players who could put up stats.
In the End
-I have the best player of the series in Hakeem Olajuwon
-My team is better down low
-My team is better on the boards
-My team is better defensively; the 3 best defenders of the series are on my team (Hakeem, Payton, Mutumbo)
-My team has better closers with Hakeem, Wade, and Ray Allen.
-My team has a better bench
-My team has more deadly 3 point shooters to spread the floor
-My team has proven winners. Hack has ONE player who has ever won a ring. One!!
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