Beanclown should be permanently banned.

[Stickler]

Speaking of trolls..

I'm not sure that sending someone a private communicae, in response to that person trolling, really counts as trolling, in and of itself. I highly doubt that anyone cares, but being called out in public (again) by franklin in this way, I feel the need to explain myself. (Most of you won't care, so feel free to skip this.)

I once made the mistake of becoming engaged in a conversation with franklin. I don't keep track of who posts what kind of stuff, so I had no idea what I was in for... The conversation turned into a weird kind of argument in which he repeatedly insisted that he had made points that he hadn't actually made. Whenever I asked him to clarify his position -- and I was quite kind, by the way -- he blustered that he would defer to "the economists," and vaguely referenced the beliefs of "experts," without actually saying what those beliefs were or how they related to the topic at hand. It was painfully circular, and by the end of it, it had become this thing where the onus wasn't on him to explain himself clearly, it was on me not to be such an idiot. Whatever. Eventually I ran out of patience and stopped responding. It was pretty obvious that having a good faith conversation was not what he was after.

I tried to let the matter drop, but since then franklin has made a habit of pestering me in the game-chat, and repeatedly in random threads where I have posted, apparently wanting to give the impression that he "defeated" me in some kind of intellectual battle. I do my best to ignore him, but he won't seem to let it go.

Talking, once, to franklin in good faith, has kind of turned into a frankenstein's monster kind of scenario for me.

Anyway, it was in response to one of those posts that I sent him that comment and a neg-rep.

*shrug*

Personally I'd be cool with franklin if he let the matter go and we went back to not knowing each other. He can't seem to do that, though.

Apparently ole Stick has a highly distorted estimate of his own intelligence and, ipso facto, of his "qualification" to assess the degree of others' intelligence, eh, Frank? Par for the course. He knows a LOT of things that you don't, no doubt.

That may be so. I think I'm kind of smart. I may not as smart as some, but I recognize blustering and face-saving and straw-men when I see them.

 

[C l u t c H 385]

I'm not sure that sending someone a private communicae, in response to that person trolling, really counts as trolling, in and of itself.

Kinda like you get a free pass on being a bigot as long as you claim the person you're calling a bigot is a bigot

 

[Safetydan]

Kinda surprised to see my ole homey, Dan, on the list, tho.

More of a personal vendetta than anything else.. don't read too much into it.

 

[Stickler]

Kinda like you get a free pass on being a bigot as long as you claim the person you're calling a bigot is a bigot

I think you're confusing me with someone else. I don't believe I've ever used the word "bigot" on Jazzfanz.

 

[C l u t c H 385]

I think you're confusing me with someone else. I don't believe I've ever used the word "bigot" on Jazzfanz.

I didn't say you, I was just trying to understand through analogy.

 

[Stickler]

I didn't say you, I was just trying to understand through analogy.

I'm not sure I understand the analogy. I wish I was smarter.

 

[franklin]

I'm not sure that sending someone a private communicae, in response to that person trolling, really counts as trolling, in and of itself. I highly doubt that anyone cares, but being called out in public (again) by franklin in this way, I feel the need to explain myself. (Most of you won't care, so feel free to skip this.)

Wait, I'm getting the popcorn. This is going to be good.

 

[franklin]

I once made the mistake of becoming engaged in a conversation with franklin. I don't keep track of who posts what kind of stuff, so I had no idea what I was in for... The conversation turned into a weird kind of argument in which he repeatedly insisted that he had made points that he hadn't actually made. Whenever I asked him to clarify his position -- and I was quite kind, by the way -- he blustered that he would defer to "the economists," and vaguely referenced the beliefs of "experts," without actually saying what those beliefs were or how they related to the topic at hand. It was painfully circular, and by the end of it, it had become this thing where the onus wasn't on him to explain himself clearly, it was on me not to be such an idiot. Whatever. Eventually I ran out of patience and stopped responding. It was pretty obvious that having a good faith conversation was not what he was after.

By "weird kind of argument" you mean you don't know enough to understand what I was saying. I apologize for being too technical and attempting to take a discussion outside your comprehensive zone.

I tried to let the matter drop, but since then franklin has made a habit of pestering me in the game-chat, and repeatedly in random threads where I have posted, apparently wanting to give the impression that he "defeated" me in some kind of intellectual battle. I do my best to ignore him, but he won't seem to let it go.

I sincerely apologize for offending you in game-chat, sir. I will refrain from addressing you with friendly banter if you prefer. I have no intention of trolling you. I also feel terrible that you're existing under self-inflicted pressure that you're a pack dog repeatedly being pissed on by the alpha male. That, however, is an issue I cannot control. You'll have to change to a positive impression yourself.

Talking, once, to franklin in good faith, has kind of turned into a frankenstein's monster kind of scenario for me.

Why yes, you have been brutally victimized by me. Monster scenario indeed.

Anyway, it was in response to one of those posts that I sent him that comment and a neg-rep.

Personally I'd be cool with franklin if he let the matter go and we went back to not knowing each other. He can't seem to do that, though.

No, it was this thread. I want to be your friend too. I don't hold any grudges against you for having an argument. I think you've told yourself a negative story and are reading too much into what I've written.

 

[Stickler]

By "weird kind of argument" you mean you don't know enough to understand what I was saying. I apologize for being too technical and attempting to take a discussion outside your comprehensive zone.



I sincerely apologize for offending you in game-chat, sir. I will refrain from addressing you with friendly banter if you prefer. I have no intention of trolling you. I also feel terrible that you're existing under self-inflicted pressure that you're a pack dog repeatedly being pissed on by the alpha male. That, however, is an issue I cannot control. You'll have to change to a positive impression yourself.



Why yes, you have been brutally victimized by me. Monster scenario indeed.




No, it was this thread. I want to be your friend too. I don't hold any grudges against you for having an argument. I think you've told yourself a negative story and are reading too much into what I've written.

Ah, franklin. You can always put a perplexed-but-unsurprised smile on my face. I can't figure out how to respond to the specifics here without it leading to another never-ending argument of circularity and personal attacks, so let us end it this way: I'm glad to hear that you do not intend (whatever happened in the past) to continue to bother me.

I will fade you back into the chorus of cavemen and forget I knew your name.

 

[Gyp Rosetti]

I'm not sure that sending someone a private communicae...

Communique.

Just sayin'.

 

[Stickler]

Communique.

Just sayin'.

Thanks.

 

[Stickler]

KEK, I tried to send you this private message, but your inbox is full...

Subject: You douche-knockler!

Message: Don't correct me when I'm fighting with franklin, you're making me look like an ***!

Please clear some space in your inbox. Thank you.