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Doesn't play defense. But, somehow never gets the Kanter hate is beyond me. He seems like he has a huge upside it we need to hold him accountable for his poor defense.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
Doesn't play defense. But, somehow never gets the Kanter hate is beyond me. He seems like he has a huge upside it we need to hold him accountable for his poor defense.
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He had a couple nice blocks and doesn't get killed in the pick and roll. He doesn't defend the post well and seems to give ground to players driving into the paint.

I actually like his perimeter defense better than his paint defense.
 
How many teams do you think would now select Lyles ahead of Booker.

I am glad we have Lyles.
 
He's talented for sure, but he's a big man with no big man qualities. He needs to learn how to use his size to get rebounds and play defense. The rest is easy for him/
 
Why people ever respond to mission accomplished is beyond me. He's baiting u. That's all he ever does. Just stop responding to him.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
Doesn't play defense. But, somehow never gets the Kanter hate is beyond me. He seems like he has a huge upside it we need to hold him accountable for his poor defense.
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We used the #3 pick to get Kanter and he was an egotistical ***-hat, at least lyles seems like he is willing to be a team player
 
He's a 3 folks. He doesn't play like a big man. That would alleviate the pressure on his paint defense.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
Doesn't play defense. But, somehow never gets the Kanter hate is beyond me. He seems like he has a huge upside it we need to hold him accountable for his poor defense.
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A) He's not a bitch

B) He has range unlike Kanter

C) He's not a bitch

D) His game is far more well rounded than Kanter's is, ie he can actually pass the basketball

E) He's not a bitch
 
People didn't start getting on Kanter en masse for not playing D until the the beginning of this third year when it seemed apparent he was willing to do nothing on the court other than shoot, rebound and set moving screens.

Lyles came together so quickly last year on offense that people are willing to overlook his other shortcomings. I think he'll be OK - he's a typical kid in that he doesn't play defense so much as he waits to play offense. Burks was the same way when he came in the league. Lyle's will never be a stopper but he won't be a liability either.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
Doesn't play defense. But, somehow never gets the Kanter hate is beyond me. He seems like he has a huge upside it we need to hold him accountable for his poor defense.
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Regardless if I think they're comparable in terms of their skillsets(strengths/weaknesses), I think Kanter's handler has as much of an understanding of perception as Putin respects the opinions of others.

I think the fans in Oklahoma like him despite their management being strongarmed by Portland into paying him more than the role they had in mind of him short team usually nets - Usually fans blame the player and his representative for being greedy when their favorite team's management make decisions that seem questionable from the outside, for the reason that players are more interchangable unless they're franchise cornerstones.
His popularity in OKC has in my opinion a lot to do with his close association to Adams, who's a very approachable and comes across very authentic.

And until his representation vented against Quin Snyder, Kanter still had ppl who tolerated the criticism since they questioned the skills of Ty Corbin.
 
jope said:
He's a 3 folks. He doesn't play like a big man. That would alleviate the pressure on his paint defense.
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Lyles would be a far greater defensive liability covering the 3 versus the 4, so you solve nothing with this move. Durant, LeBron, George, Carmelo, Giannis, Iguodala, Batum, Crowder, Wiggins, Gallinari, Ariza, Barnes, Harris, Parsons, Aminu, Gay, etc.

He might not hurt you as much against scrubs, but I think we're expecting him to be able to be in the rotation against the other team's best players.
 
silesian said:
Lyles would be a far greater defensive liability covering the 3 versus the 4, so you solve nothing with this move. Durant, LeBron, George, Carmelo, Giannis, Iguodala, Batum, Crowder, Wiggins, Gallinari, Ariza, Barnes, Harris, Parsons, Aminu, Gay, etc.

He might not hurt you as much against scrubs, but I think we're expecting him to be able to be in the rotation against the other team's best players.
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I personally think he would be great at the 3. Hopefully he will improve his defense. But, right now our second unit of big guys is lacking defense. I'm afraid Favors or GoBert are always going to have to accompany Diaw or Lyles.
 
Mission Accomplished said:
I personally think he would be great at the 3. Hopefully he will improve his defense. But, right now our second unit of big guys is lacking defense. I'm afraid Favors or GoBert are always going to have to accompany Diaw or Lyles.
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Are there any teams in the league with a better defensive group of bigs than the jazz?
In other words, are there any teams who don't have any bigs who are weak defenders?
 
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