Bernie OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DutchJazzer]

yes, this will continue. things will always go in circles, and nothing stays the same forever. there will continually be shifts.

i take t you like it when this process happens. is it a cleansing?

no do not like it! it is just a fact of live. and it astonishes me that we refuse to learn from history for whatever reason

 

[DutchJazzer]

bernies "socialist paradise" also includes equal rights for everyone, focusing on alternative energy, and education. it just shocks me how this cant mean a damn thing to you. all you see is a negative slant. listen to bernies speeches they were positive, respectful, hopeful. Trump talked about his penis size.

look to me man marrying a man is not about equal rights. the government should not meddle in a religious construct. and its ok if you disagree.
to me a marriage is a contract binding the man to the children he procreates from sex. so marriage will always be man and woman. but you define everything the way you want! and i keep to my definitions. i dont see where certain groups dont have equal rights. seriously i do not see people who do not have equal rights!

the alternative energy will come from the free market, not from big government

it's not the governments job to indoctrinate me and my offspring. ooph did i say indoctrinate i meant educate.




bernies speeches remind me of hitlers speeches they make me PUKE.
blaming everything on 1%(which in nazi Germany was the jews!) then promising how to "punish" the 1% and then taking **** from the 1% and give it to free healthcare free eductaion, free volkswagon, free am fm radio. and even enviromental regulations
they sound to me exactly the same. and it makes me die every-time inside that a jew is using the same **** hitler used.

but hey he has freedom of speech.

 

[LogGrad98]

look to me man marrying a man is not about equal rights. the government should not meddle in a religious construct. and its ok if you disagree.
to me a marriage is a contract binding the man to the children he procreates from sex. so marriage will always be man and woman. but you define everything the way you want! and i keep to my definitions. i dont see where certain groups dont have equal rights. seriously i do not see people who do not have equal rights!

the alternative energy will come from the free market, not from big government

it's not the governments job to indoctrinate me and my offspring. ooph did i say indoctrinate i meant educate.




bernies speeches remind me of hitlers speeches they make me PUKE.
blaming everything on 1%(which in nazi Germany was the jews!) then promising how to "punish" the 1% and then taking **** from the 1% and give it to free healthcare free eductaion, free volkswagon, free am fm radio. and even enviromental regulations
they sound to me exactly the same. and it makes me die every-time inside that a jew is using the same **** hitler used.

but hey he has freedom of speech.

I agree the government should not meddle in religious constructs. That was the primary purpose of the establishment clause, to keep government from controlling religion, because that is one of the main things many in our country, and many of our founding fathers, were running from. But as soon as government places benefits on marriage status, such as the fact that "married filing joint" means you pay less taxes than "single" on your tax filing status, then it no longer is purely a religious construct. It has now become secular and part of everyday life and will affect everyone unequally. At that point either the tax code has to change or everyone who wants to be married, regardless of who they are marrying (or how many, which is another topic altogether, but related), needs to be allowed to be married. That is the point of equality. If there were no direct benefit to being married (inheritance, life insurance, taxes, medical benefits, all of these are affected by marital status) then government should just butt out of the marriage debate. But as long as our society places a premium on being single and benefits are given to married people that are not given to single people then we need equality in who is allowed to be married, and we need laws to protect this.

Now if the government would just pass laws to protect EVERYONE EQUALLY regardless of marital status then the debate could fall back into the religious sphere. But as long as the means exist to discriminate against single people who are not allowed to marry just because they choose to marry someone of the same gender then we need to change these laws and allow EVERYONE to marry whoever they want to.

It is really that simple. And because of the very obvious and real discriminatory benefits, it absolutely cannot be viewed as a pure religious matter anymore.

 

[Revolution 9]

look to me man marrying a man is not about equal rights. the government should not meddle in a religious construct. and its ok if you disagree.
to me a marriage is a contract binding the man to the children he procreates from sex. so marriage will always be man and woman. but you define everything the way you want! and i keep to my definitions. i dont see where certain groups dont have equal rights. seriously i do not see people who do not have equal rights!

the alternative energy will come from the free market, not from big government

it's not the governments job to indoctrinate me and my offspring. ooph did i say indoctrinate i meant educate.




bernies speeches remind me of hitlers speeches they make me PUKE.
blaming everything on 1%(which in nazi Germany was the jews!) then promising how to "punish" the 1% and then taking **** from the 1% and give it to free healthcare free eductaion, free volkswagon, free am fm radio. and even enviromental regulations
they sound to me exactly the same. and it makes me die every-time inside that a jew is using the same **** hitler used.

but hey he has freedom of speech.

interesting to heat your takes, and also nice to see us chatting like we used to. i dont have a problem with people who see if completely differently than I do. i just want there to be mutual respect in those conversations.

i see a marriage as a legal binding between two people. there is also a person commitment to another human being. i would never try to get in the way of two consenting adults on their beliefs. i just dont care. its not my right to judge.

alternative energy needs to encouragement from government if that is the future, and it is. free markets dont care about the planet. that is why the middle man is there to regulate, and guide.

it is the governments job to protect us from a free market who will destroy natural resources. THAT IS IMPORTANT.

 

[DutchJazzer]

i think that guy with the ebrnie shirt needs new underwear!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DutchJazzer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rQ_mphb7HU


the first segment is exactly how i feel about marriage!!

note the interviewer is a gay lefty(but according to some he has become a libertarian. but he still refers to himself as a liberal)

and gay is not meant as an insult, he is a homosexual who is married!