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Consider the source you’re arguing with. Lower the expectations. You’re welcome
Biden's Tax Plan
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Consider the source you’re arguing with. Lower the expectations. You’re welcome
Why be so rude about it?
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Haha is this a serious question?
Because Joe is dishonest. Because all Joe makes are bad faith arguments. Because even after proven wrong, Joe still insists he’s right. Instructing someone to lower expectations for a troll like figure is only rude if you’re expecting him to make good faith arguments. Which Joe doesn’t.
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Joe Bagadonuts
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I got all of that. I do not disagree that the economy was growing (albeit slowly) prior to the cut. I do not disagree that correlation is not causation either. I can't help but think it's interesting that just as the taxes were lowered the economy simultaneously heated up, so much so that government revenues went up instead of down subsequent to the cut. Trump got very lucky on that one, didn't he? I wish I had time to conduct an in depth study of exactly why that happened, but I'm too busy making money.
Beer
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lmao
This is deeply depressing in away. Also hilarious.
Overall taxes didn’t go up because the rich were paying more.
tax revenue went up from 2.2 to 3.3 trillion under obama
then up to 3.7 trillion under trump, a lower rate of increase.
Under trump, the rich are paying less. Middle class are paying more due to economic expansion under both Obama and Trump.
I think he is entirely sincere. He brings in information and processes it by what we would consider a faulty filter, but he's still doing his best. Insulting him like that just causes the Backfire effect, and diminishes you.
latin jazz
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You obviously know nothing about Macroeconomics or fiscal policy (or are unwilling to listen). You don't need to carry out an in-depth study: you can read academic journals, books or listen to people who know more than you about fiscal policy. This doesn't take a lot of time (but it needs a curious mind).
Lol at the money reference. Some inferiority complex right there. Well, I'm busy enjoying life and educating myself. Shouldn't waste more time in trying to explain basic economic concepts to you.
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yeah I completely disagree. He’s ignorant, dishonest, and is a waste of time to argue with. Those who do this should be called out, not treated and respected as honest posters and valid arguments.
and it looks like I’m not the only one to see this:
@One Brow it might be worth reevaluating your opinion of Joe.
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Exactly. I can’t believe the amount of time I’ve wasted debatingJoe. I think the break point came a few summers ago when he was being incredibly dishonest about Ukraine. It was clear he wasn’t arguing in good faith and just wanted to troll no matter the data.
latin jazz
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Hi Thriller. Don't know him enough to tell whether he is trolling or he is just simpled minded. My gut tells me it's the latter. He seems to be really opinionated (we all are at some degree) and simpled minded. He has this crazy ideas and statements and then refuses to see others' point of view, even when shown facts and proved wrong. Reminds me of jom2003. But yeah, he doesn't seem to engage in good faith. Not sure if that's enough to call him a troll (although that "I'm busy making money" comment could be interpreted as trollish, immature, narcissistic or just plain stupid). What I'm sure about though, is that I'm not gonna waste my time on him.
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