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infection said:
As I haven’t been particularly optimistic about our direction for some time now, and as I’m having a hard time envisioning a relevant future any time soon and become quite apathetic to it, pretty much all I have left is looking to the past and arguing about conclusions made from it, and here you are trying to take that last little thing away from me.
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Lol, we can start another thread and discuss the failings of the past. Or you can disregard what I said and post them in here. It's a free country, lol.
 
NAOS_pt2 said:
I agree that the particular skills of the players should dictate how the team is ultimately constructed.

The thing that interests me most is how systems are built around/for players. It's offensive and defensive systems that win games. You need players who can execute those systems and gain advantages while they do.

I understand the emphasis on offense. It can be demoralizing to play 82 games when your team struggles to finish plays. Players want to have juice and get their squeeze on that side of the ball. The space-and-pace / advantage-basketball blueprints are out there. I don't think it's particularly hard to tailor one of those to fit your roster. The real art of coaching is getting the right defensive scheme and getting players to buy-in and ****ing execute for 48 minutes. OKC has been absolutely beautiful in this way, and they deserve the banner that's about to be hanging in their rafters. I thought they were destined for this moment about 30 games into this season when I saw how suffocating their defense could be. Superb. We're so far away from that in Utah.
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That's the dream, but I would even settle for a top 10 defensive team.
 
I don't see team building as all that complicated. Get a central offensive guy, then get a bunch of decent 2 way guys of various skillsets around him. The first part is the hard part but we can pull it off in this draft.
 
SoberasHotRod said:
I want the Jazz to build a team based on two way players. I would prefer to watch a team filled with guys that can both get stops and make open shots, than a team with some amazing offensive engine that has a bunch of huge defensive holes. Obviously it must be nice to be OKC and have the best of both worlds, but if I had to pick one, that's what I choose. I'm not a championship or bust guy either, and I would rather build a team that is sustainably good.
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Oh, so you want Jerry Sloan and his brand of scrappy players playing hard and being held responsible for the low effort and defensive lapses? No, you will not get it. You will get more Hardy, who always encouraged careless shooting away of Keyonte and Brice and did not care about winning - and, as a reward, just got a long-term extension. And you will get Ainge, who purposefully traded away every semi-decent defensive player sans Kessler, young and old. This is the long-term direction of the team: all offense, no defense and not trying to develop any cohesiveness and competitive fire. And you better get used to it.
 
It's like, who the young Jazz guards and wings will learn from about playing tough defense? Juzang? Sexton? We have absolutely no one on the team at the 1-3 positions who knows how to play the NBA-level defense.
 
jazznik said:
It's like, who the young Jazz guards and wings will learn from about playing tough defense? Juzang? Sexton? We have absolutely no one on the team at the 1-3 positions who knows how to play the NBA-level defense.
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This might actually be a good point.
 
jazznik said:
Oh, so you want Jerry Sloan and his brand of scrappy players playing hard and being held responsible for the low effort and defensive lapses? No, you will not get it. You will get more Hardy, who always encouraged careless shooting away of Keyonte and Brice and did not care about winning - and, as a reward, just got a long-term extension. And you will get Ainge, who purposefully traded away every semi-decent defensive player sans Kessler, young and old.
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Actually, this sounds like tanking.
 
fishonjazz said:
Now see, this one would get right past me. I never know which one to use. Struggle with Capitol or Capital as well.
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I used to have to look it up every time, lol.

The only one that really bothers me even a little is the resign vs re-sign since they mean opposite things
 
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