Black History Month

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I've found that many people want to share their cuisine with people from outside their culture as a way to connect and to in a small way help those people better understand their identity.

Someone who opens a restaurant that expressly represents Ethiopian food is making an overet invitation for people to come and experience that cuisine.

It also goes a little way to helping someone like myself understand distinctions in Africa between people from different geographic areas or cultures.

I certainly will not be going to Mahider Ethiopian to gawk at the employees, or mock their culture or to demean them. I will be going so that I can experience a type of cuisine that I haven't had before and support directly a locally owned African American business.

I certainly don't share Al's views of you regarding this subject, but it is a little odd that you created a thread titled Black History Month and then ask a question about restaurants (having nothing to do with history) when there is a perfectly good and current thread titled Restaurants.

 

[LogGrad98]

Who the hell is Martin Freeman? Morgan's brother?

Bilbo

 

[gandalfe]

Who the hell is Martin Freeman? Morgan's brother?

Bilbo Baggins. Also Tim from the British version of the Office, Watson from the Sherlock series, etc, etc.

 

[Avery]

Bilbo Baggins. Also Tim from the British version of the Office, Watson from the Sherlock series, etc, etc.

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Pulled this thread up on my laptop and now my wife is wondering why I'm staring at a huge friggin' picture of Frodo Sr.

 

[JFFR]

I think grouping people by skin color is gross. It isn’t noble or empathetic and I won’t pretend that it is.

I’m glad you think it’s gross. Unfortunately people do it all the time and hundreds of millions of lives have been disadvantaged because of people doing it.

I don’t know think we can fix it by ignoring that it happened.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

Would you take these comments the same if they were said by Martin Freeman?

Yes. Exactly the same because I am not a racist. I don't have to break out a WWII German skin color chart to decide what type of racial discrimination to apply.

 

[Al-O-Meter]

I’m glad you think it’s gross. Unfortunately people do it all the time...

...including right here in this thread. Recognizing past racial discrimination is not a justification for perpetuating racial discrimination today. "We need to have racism today because to not be racists would be racist for ignoring past racism" is just a thing racists say to justify themselves. Here's an idea: If you don't like racism then be the change you want to see and stop being racist. That is effectively what Morgan Freeman voiced and was condemned for. I'm with Morgan Freeman on that.

 

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[JFFR]

...including right here in this thread. Recognizing past racial discrimination is not a justification for perpetuating racial discrimination today. "We need to have racism today because to not be racists would be racist for ignoring past racism" is just a thing racists say to justify themselves. Here's an idea: If you don't like racism then be the change you want to see and stop being racist. That is effectively what Morgan Freeman voiced and was condemned for. I'm with Morgan Freeman on that.

How do you define racism?

 

[One Brow]

How do you define racism?

He defines it in any way necessary to make sure the definition does not include him and that society doesn't need to change.

 

[One Brow]

Recognizing past racial discrimination is not a justification for perpetuating racial discrimination today.

Ignoring past discrimination is sufficient for perpetuating racial discrimination.

"We need to have racism today because to not be racists would be racist for ignoring past racism" is just a thing racists say to justify themselves.

From what I have seen, most racists go around telling everyone they are not racist.

Here's an idea: If you don't like racism then be the change you want to see and stop being racist. That is effectively what Morgan Freeman voiced and was condemned for. I'm with Morgan Freeman on that.

I'm surprised you didn't throw in "content of your character".

So, why should we take Freeman's word for it?

 

[JazzGal]

Morgan Freeman is as entitled to his opinion as we all are. I'm actually grateful that his life experiences have allowed him to have this opinion. Here's mine.

If you are going to understand any culture, ignoring it exists is not the way to go about it.

How do you learn to understand a culture that you are not familiar with? You go to the places where that culture is celebrated (like restaurants, for example). You read books by authors from and about that group. You talk to actual human beings about their culture. You learn about their history by learning about their now.

It is not a good idea to assume that someone whose skin is a certain shade considers themselves this or that. Assumptions about people is the basis of racism, not in the trying to learn and understand.

We will never live in a world where people aren't placed into groups based on many things, like sex, nationality, religious affiliation, etc. We do not need a homogenized world. We need to understand differences and accept them and treat them equally. We are nowhere close to that.

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