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boy does tim tebow suck

Nate505 said:
When it's a group that's trying to deny people civil rights, I have a problem with it. If he was just a member of the Yellow Mustard Appreciation society I wouldn't care, even though I personally hate mustard.

EDIT: So, just out of curiosity, which one of you gaping vaginas gave me this message in rep?

"I hope you die of AIDS. ***."

Just a thought. Try using something called "wit" the next time. If you possess the vocabulary and intelligence to use it.
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I don't give a **** what he believes as long he helps my team win football games and isn't a murderer or rapist...and I am extremely pro-choice. I bet there are a bunch of players in the NFL that are firmly against abortion, but they don't have the platform that Tebow does to get their beliefs out there.
 
honz said:
I don't give a **** what he believes as long he helps my team win football games and isn't a murderer or rapist...and I am extremely pro-choice. I bet there are a bunch of players in the NFL that are firmly against abortion, but they don't have the platform that Tebow does to get their beliefs out there.
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Fair enough. Doesn't mean I have to like him, or support him. If there were a player who was against interracial marriage, I'd detest him too. Although if he played for the Colts, I'd hope he'd play well. So I see that position.
 
honz said:
A rookie QB is locking on to receivers? That's crazy man.
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Were you trying to be funny? Because you weren't. Or did you seriously miss what he said?

There's nothing wrong with looking AT receivers. However, looking at only one is something that even HS quarterbacks need to avoid. In a passing offense, there's a thing called a progression. If a quarterback doesn't follow his progression he becomes an interception machine. EVERY successful pro quarter learns to read defenses and follow his progression.
 
The Thriller said:
Were you trying to be funny? Because you weren't. Or did you seriously miss what he said?

There's nothing wrong with looking AT receivers. However, looking at only one is something that even HS quarterbacks need to avoid. In a passing offense, there's a thing called a progression. If a quarterback doesn't follow his progression he becomes an interception machine. EVERY successful pro quarter learns to read defenses and follow his progression.
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And many rookie QBs start off being very bad at said progression and just stare a guy down and chuck it. Duh.
 
Nate505 said:
Fair enough. Doesn't mean I have to like him, or support him. If there were a player who was against interracial marriage, I'd detest him too. Although if he played for the Colts, I'd hope he'd play well. So I see that position.
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So if Tebow was a member of the Nazi party and went to KKK rallies on the weekend and picketed dead soldiers' funerals because Americans love gays you'd hate his guts but would cheer him on because he led your beloved horses to a Super Bowl victory?!?
 
C l u t c H 385 said:
And many rookie QBs start off being very bad at said progression and just stare a guy down and chuck it. Duh.
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Many rookies also come from passing offenses or pro-style attacks. Tebow didn't come from that. He came from a shotgun spread team that ran the ball a lot, which is currently the new version of the option. It's the best offense for running the ball right now as it spreads the field out and kicks defensive players out to the perimeter. It allows RBs and running QBs running lanes that they wouldn't otherwise have in more traditional option/running offenses. So just his college background is a knock against him.

If it's a "rookie" thing then he's got to overcome that. Many rookie QBs never end up doing this too. The NFL QB position is probably the toughest position in all of sports.

However, if one is to be successful in this league one needs to learn to understand defenses and follow a progression, no matter what the age or experience is.

I'm not sure that he can or will do that. It's real tough to change old habits.

He certainly didn't demonstrate to me that he could, even at the college level. Some of you act like his bad throwing mechanics are the only knocks against him. His ability to read defenses is horrid. He no longer doesn't have the best and fastest talent around him anymore. And at this level, he won't be a one show pony able to run all over the place out of the shotgun spread.

Pocket passers who manipulate defenses and follow their progressions win in the NFL (Brett Farve, Mannings, Brees, Rivers, Brady, Aikman, Montana, etc) . These "hybrid" running and passing QBs (Alex Smith, Vince Young, Mike Vick, etc) haven't been very successful nor will they ever be with the athletic defenses the NFL has.

I'll be very surprised if Tebow is ever more than a backup QB in this league. Great college player, but just not cut out for the League.
 
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The Thriller said:
Were you trying to be funny? Because you weren't. Or did you seriously miss what he said?

There's nothing wrong with looking AT receivers. However, looking at only one is something that even HS quarterbacks need to avoid. In a passing offense, there's a thing called a progression. If a quarterback doesn't follow his progression he becomes an interception machine. EVERY successful pro quarter learns to read defenses and follow his progression.
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Who's a progression?
Kyle Orton locked onto his receivers bad early last year, but as he got more comfortable with the new offense he was learning he began to go through his progressions better. You just said for yourself that they LEARN to follow their progressions. He's played in 1 quarter of a preseason game and people think he's as good as he is gonna get.
 
Marcus said:
So if Tebow was a member of the Nazi party and went to KKK rallies on the weekend and picketed dead soldiers' funerals because Americans love gays you'd hate his guts but would cheer him on because he led your beloved horses to a Super Bowl victory?!?
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Pretty much. At least he wouldn't be doing commercials for Focus on the Family.
 
tebow didnt even run his progressions properly in college...i dont see how he will ever do that in the nfl.

for somebody who is always bragging about his iron will and how hard he works...he never seemed to get better (in fact he got worse as his career progressed) spend that much time breaking down film...


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his college offense was not that complicated...and he didn't exactly execute the way it was designed. He got the job done...but a lot of that had to do with the overwhelming talent around him.


Remember Brian Billick breaking down his performance against the bearcats? Billick thought tebow looked bad during what was the best performance of tebows career.
https://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footb...-offers-substantive-critique?urn=ncaaf-211889

Tim Tebow is the Hopper of nfl quarterbacks: obnoxious, dumb, and ineffective.
 
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Ineffective? He was anything but in college, and we haven't even seen him play in the NFL yet.
 
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