Brown Notes
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That team is going to dominate once Dwight gets in there.
Breaking News, Deron stays with the Nets
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Weezur
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For the record, I still think the Nets are a lotto team and they're not going to get D12 with the junk they have left (do they even have anything?)
They had no offense last year and if they don't get Lopez (who they have little money for) they're going to have no defense. DWill is effective if you have someone he can pass to (Boozer, anyone?). JJ is an iso player which is why he was good in Atlanta. Gerald is declining. Avery Johnson is definitely not the coach he was in Dallas either. And...you can't win a game without a bench and Reggie Evans.
Don't think they're going to be a powerhouse, it's just media hype.
They had no offense last year and if they don't get Lopez (who they have little money for) they're going to have no defense. DWill is effective if you have someone he can pass to (Boozer, anyone?). JJ is an iso player which is why he was good in Atlanta. Gerald is declining. Avery Johnson is definitely not the coach he was in Dallas either. And...you can't win a game without a bench and Reggie Evans.
Don't think they're going to be a powerhouse, it's just media hype.
Fishsticks
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Have not read through this, but I know many were hoping he would leave to prove some point. Never understood this. I'm happy he is on the east coast for good. I will say I don't like this super team bs that's going on as I think it brings the nba too close to MLB. I hope that the magic deal Dwight to anyone but the the nets. The nets will never be able to sign him as a fa.
Brown Notes
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They're gonna get Dwight. If GW is declining at 29 I haven't seen any evidence of it. Deron, JJ, Dwight and Wallace is a brutal core. Find some guy to spot up 3s and they are set. They have an owner who doesn't care about the luxury tax. Stern would love to have them cover up the mess of the Knicks.
They're going to be fun to root against, same as the cHeat.
They're going to be fun to root against, same as the cHeat.
Weezur
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Still think they're a lotto team, but I could be wrong...wouldn't be the first time.
I'll keep this thread in mind. But honestly don't see how they're going to get Dwight, they have nothing besides their core and Marshon to trade. They could sign B. Lopez....so maybe B.Lopez and Marshon gets you Dwight, but there's better trades out there....
And then you have to pay D12 the max. I know they have money to spend, but that's 2 max but 2 huge contracts for 4 guys. WIthout doing the calculation, they might be over the cap with those 4 right there.
Brown Notes
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Their offer is Brooks, Brook, Kardashian and as many 1st rounders as they are allowed. 3 I think. Dwight is ruining the Magic's ability to get anything resembling his true value for him by openly refusing to extend with anybody else. The only way the Magic get a better offer is if someone has the hubris to believe they can woo this diva. Which could happen, I suppose.
You're right, you can't have 3 max contracts + a 10 mil one but I'm sure they feel like they'll just figure it out when he gets there. Anyways it's a soft cap and their owner is rich as ****.
I'm just assuming they get Dwight with the offer on the table, yea, but once he's in there he stays. Dwight/Deron/JJ is every bit as formidable as LeBruh + Wade if not moreso. You could say this superteam is practically tailor made to defeat the cHeat. That lineup would bully the F out of Miami's guards while always having that smiling douche Howard waiting to clean up.
You're right, you can't have 3 max contracts + a 10 mil one but I'm sure they feel like they'll just figure it out when he gets there. Anyways it's a soft cap and their owner is rich as ****.
I'm just assuming they get Dwight with the offer on the table, yea, but once he's in there he stays. Dwight/Deron/JJ is every bit as formidable as LeBruh + Wade if not moreso. You could say this superteam is practically tailor made to defeat the cHeat. That lineup would bully the F out of Miami's guards while always having that smiling douche Howard waiting to clean up.
spycam1
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They would match up better with the Heat than the Thunder, that's for sure. But I think you're getting a little ahead of yourself, if you think they'd be the favorites in a playoff series.
And it's not a soft luxury tax any more--I believe a $20mil penalty in the old CBA is now a $45mil penalty. I don't know if it's enough to make the Nets hesitate on going over, but it seems as though it's been enough to pressure the Mavericks and Lakers to shed salary.
vslice02
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Think the Nets are firmly a playoff team, likely top-5 but not top-3 unless they can land Dwight - which is still plausible but not probable.
As John Hollnger pointed out tonight, NJ bizarrely using their full midlevel on Teletovic gives them a salary ceilling for this season that they would eclipse if they trade for Dwight...and also limits their ability to take back some of Orlando's dead-weight which takes another perk off the table for the Magic.
Unless Brooklyn doesn't follow through with their verbal agreements, the only way they could still land Dwight would be to resign everyone (Lopez, Humphries, Gerald Green) and hope as time goes by Dwight continues his stance that he won't resign with whatever team (outside of Brooklyn) he is traded to which would scare off other teams. Obviously the window of him going to the Nets will close next year...but a team like Houston, GS or even LA is still taking the risk he could have another mood swing and find another team w/2013 cap space to earmark for his future destination. If that scares off those teams, Orlando would feel pressure to get whatever they can for Dwight at some point before the 2013 trade deadline.
The idiotic thing of this entire fiasco is all Dwight had to do was exercise his PO for this season and he and Deron would both be in Brooklyn right now. He didn't, was either too worried about his public image (which is in the toilet now anyway) or was completely suckered by the Magic (unlikely since he wanted to go to Brooklyn since last summer), or he's just a wishy-washy athlete with very little common sense.
It's a shame, because I would've liked a Deron/Dwight combo far more than any of the others presently in the East.
As John Hollnger pointed out tonight, NJ bizarrely using their full midlevel on Teletovic gives them a salary ceilling for this season that they would eclipse if they trade for Dwight...and also limits their ability to take back some of Orlando's dead-weight which takes another perk off the table for the Magic.
Unless Brooklyn doesn't follow through with their verbal agreements, the only way they could still land Dwight would be to resign everyone (Lopez, Humphries, Gerald Green) and hope as time goes by Dwight continues his stance that he won't resign with whatever team (outside of Brooklyn) he is traded to which would scare off other teams. Obviously the window of him going to the Nets will close next year...but a team like Houston, GS or even LA is still taking the risk he could have another mood swing and find another team w/2013 cap space to earmark for his future destination. If that scares off those teams, Orlando would feel pressure to get whatever they can for Dwight at some point before the 2013 trade deadline.
The idiotic thing of this entire fiasco is all Dwight had to do was exercise his PO for this season and he and Deron would both be in Brooklyn right now. He didn't, was either too worried about his public image (which is in the toilet now anyway) or was completely suckered by the Magic (unlikely since he wanted to go to Brooklyn since last summer), or he's just a wishy-washy athlete with very little common sense.
It's a shame, because I would've liked a Deron/Dwight combo far more than any of the others presently in the East.
This is Hollinger's point. It's not a soft cap if they spend their full midlevel on Teletovic from Turkey. Luxury tax payers are prohibited from using their $5 million midlevel. If they don't use it and can match salaries for Dwight + other bad-contract, they would have huge penalties but Prokhorov would pay it. If their salary is capped at $74.3 million, they can't really pull it off.
Brown Notes
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Hadn't heard of the Teletovic signing. Talking heads this afternoon were acting like Howard to Brooklyn was still possible, even likely.
It is odd that the guy's preferred destination would create all these obstacles.
It is odd that the guy's preferred destination would create all these obstacles.
