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dalamon said:
the author is arguing that it's unfair how black culture can be used by white people for advancement of financial power & status, while not bringing to light the issues that black people fight in contemporary America. As summarized in this quote:



No one really gave a **** about JT borrowing off of black music. Umm, every contemporary American musician probably borrows off of black music in one way or another.

But then when you make statements like "we're all one race" you're basically implying that there are no race-specific problems in America, which is why so many black people found his tweets hugely problematic. That's the heart of the issue.
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I wasn't aware that he tweeted what you claim, but even if he had it sounds like a statement of support. But the real issue is, it sounds like you're setting up a no-win situation for JT to me. What's he supposed to do?

Does it offend you that people other than Caucasian males from Utah utilize television (either by watching it or by being broadcast over it)? After all, it was invented by someone in that category. From my perspective "cultural appropriation" is a ridiculous concept.Technology and ideas become part of the public domain once they are shared. Our society is a melting pot of good ideas from all sorts of cultures that have become so intertwined that nobody could ever hope to unravel them and figure out which ones they should be allowed to use because of group identification and which ones they shouldn't. Cultural appropriation enables people to define anybody's behavior as wrong, no matter what that behavior is.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
I wasn't aware that he tweeted what you claim, but even if he had it sounds like a statement of support. But the real issue is, it sounds like you're setting up a no-win situation for JT to me. What's he supposed to do?
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I very clearly pointed out how championed he would be if he voiced any support towards issues affecting the black community specifically. It's not a no-win situation whatsoever. Instead he capitalizes off of black art & doesnt do anything for black people. Are you beginning to understand where they're coming from?

Does it offend you that people other than Caucasian males from Utah utilize television (either by watching it or by being broadcast over it)? After all, it was invented by someone in that category. From my perspective "cultural appropriation" is a ridiculous concept.Technology and ideas become part of the public domain once they are shared. Our society is a melting pot of good ideas from all sorts of cultures that have become so intertwined that nobody could ever hope to unravel them and figure out which ones they should be allowed to use because of group identification and which ones they shouldn't. Cultural appropriation enables people to define anybody's behavior as wrong, no matter what that behavior is.
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That's a false-equivalency-- and this is very clearly a case of you ignoring what people are trying to say in terms of black exploitation. Instead you're just regurgitating right-wing talking points. For starters, listen to the speech that JT praised.
 
Scat said:
You say this as if it is a bad thing.
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It's a bad-thing to basically everyone except America's Neo-Nazis. I'm surprised you're not calling people cucks on Jazzfanz for holding their centrist/left stances.
 
dalamon said:
It's a bad-thing to basically everyone except America's Neo-Nazis. I'm surprised you're not calling people cucks on Jazzfanz for holding their centrist/left stances.
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You mean like you do with those holding centrist/right stances?
 
Scat said:
You mean like you do with those holding centrist/right stances?
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You're clearly unfamiliar with the cuck phenomenon. I'd also enjoy you posting any proof of me calling someone a cuck. Ever.



I'll wait.
 
dalamon said:
I very clearly pointed out how championed he would be if he voiced any support towards issues affecting the black community specifically. It's not a no-win situation whatsoever. Instead he capitalizes off of black art & doesnt do anything for black people. Are you beginning to understand where they're coming from?



That's a false-equivalency-- and this is very clearly a case of you ignoring what people are trying to say in terms of black exploitation. Instead you're just regurgitating right-wing talking points. For starters, listen to the speech that JT praised.
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If you very clearly said something about what Timberlake should have done I missed it before. I've heard the speech. He had a ton of passion and the audience clearly agreed with what he said. I did not understand all of it. I still feel that the cultural appropriation part doesn't serve anyone well. It's just another way of dividing people. I know that you'll disagree with me on that, but I'm not giving you anybody else's talking points. I honestly believe that the cultural appropriation argument is a bad one. A very bad one.
 
Joe Bagadonuts said:
If you very clearly said something about what Timberlake should have done I missed it before. I've heard the speech. He had a ton of passion and the audience clearly agreed with what he said. I did not understand all of it. I still feel that the cultural appropriation part doesn't serve anyone well. It's just another way of dividing people. I know that you'll disagree with me on that, but I'm not giving you anybody else's talking points. I honestly believe that the cultural appropriation argument is a bad one. A very bad one.
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I'm not sure you fully understand the cultural appropriation "argument" (there isn't just one argument, there's 1000 different extents that you could argue the issue on). I would suggest you look into the things he said that you didn't understand, instead of automatically assuming it's "dividing people"
 
dalamon said:
You're clearly unfamiliar with the cuck phenomenon. I'd also enjoy you posting any proof of me calling someone a cuck. Ever.



I'll wait.
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I'll admit that I had no idea what the term cuck means. I looked it up. It describes you perfectly! LOL

Cuck
A demasculated Millenial liberal male who often speaks of white privilege and modern feminism. Blames white men for all of the world's problems.
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cuck

Oh wait, is that reference too "intensely right wing"?

And you win. I have now accused someone on Jazzfanz of being a cuck. Congratulations cuck.
 
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