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Bryon Russell = best Jazz SF all time

No it doesn't.

He's welcome to care more about video games and most things than his profession, and I am more than happy to oblige him with the eternal beef he earned along with the $100 million that ruined this team's chances of building a real contender. Planning trips while the playoffs would still be occurring and the rot he imbued into the locker room with his ego-driven pouting and disengagement will not be forgotten and will not be missed. Nor will the sideshow his wife brought.

Not everyone has to love basketball, but not everyone that puts up superficial statistics on bad and mediocre teams deserves praise.

I will **** on AK whenever I have the opportunity. He is a stain.
I don't know why KOC doesn't get **** on for signing two bigs that were awful on defense, then Sloan refusing to use AK properly. Gosh, I remember when everyone crapped on AK for crying when it was a struggle, but now everyone defends Gobert when he does it. But hey, we do love whipping boys here at jazzfanz.
 
I don't know why KOC doesn't get **** on for signing two bigs that were awful on defense, then Sloan refusing to use AK properly. Gosh, I remember when everyone crapped on AK for crying when it was a struggle, but now everyone defends Gobert when he does it. But hey, we do love whipping boys here at jazzfanz.
It's because Gobert wants to be the best and win and be recognized for it. AK wanted to get his money, do whatever he wanted on the court, and plan his vacation. He wasn't anywhere near Gobert in terms of wanting to win. AK cried due to ego, Gobert does due to passion.
 
Would Gobert suddenly suck if we decided he was a 4 or would Quin be dumb?

Answer: Sloan was past it and he/KOC ruined a chance at real contention. Heck AK was still better then Boozer even out of position (and yes, he had injury issues, but that's a different criticism than those leveled here).
 
It's because Gobert wants to be the best and win and be recognized for it. AK wanted to get his money, do whatever he wanted on the court, and plan his vacation. He wasn't anywhere near Gobert in terms of wanting to win. AK cried due to ego, Gobert does due to passion.
Always an excuse when there's a grudge.

I notice no one ever brings up the season he almost got to the playoffs single handedly when they were predicted to only win 9 games. And hey, it's not his fault he got paid-good for him.
 
Would Gobert suddenly suck if we decided he was a 4 or would Quin be dumb?

Answer: Sloan was past it and he/KOC ruined a chance at real contention. Heck AK was still better then Boozer even out of position (and yes, he had injury issues, but that's a different criticism than those leveled here).
Thank you! It's at least worth talking about. I'm just tired of the one sided debate. I adored AK, even though he was flawed. Why don't folks bring up stuff like when he ran point against Golden State in the playoffs?
 
Always an excuse when there's a grudge.

I notice no one ever brings up the season he almost got to the playoffs single handedly when they were predicted to only win 9 games. And hey, it's not his fault he got paid-good for him.
What grudge? Always a dick behind the assumptions.
 
Prime AK is obviously the best SF the team has ever had- if he’d played on better teams he’d have been in the MVP conversation.
‘Average ‘ vs career best seasons I’d take Hayward since, when not injured, can sustain a high level of play better than a disinterested AK.

AKs main problem is so much of his impact was predicated on energy and hustle, minus that he wasn’t in the same stratosphere as a player.
 
Talent-wise AK is the best SF we ever had but he didn't reach his full potential. Accomplishment-wise I'd go with either Jingles or Dantley. One by longevity(broke John's franchise 3pt record and many more to come) and one by peak of his career(scoring champ, multiple all-stars etc)

Bryon Russell? he's not even top 5 on my list
 
Always an excuse when there's a grudge.

I notice no one ever brings up the season he almost got to the playoffs single handedly when they were predicted to only win 9 games. And hey, it's not his fault he got paid-good for him.
No one denies AKs accomplishments. My beef was that he never felt like he cared that much about the game or team. He had otherworldly skill and talent, and if he had half the passion and work ethic Gobert does he would have been talked about as nothing short of the greatest two-way force the jazz had ever seen. But he didn't. And people felt that, knew it, so when he got that contract most felt it was a heavy over-pay because he didn't impact the game the way we knew he could if he put forth consistent effort. But that wasn't his focus. He wasn't the lynchpin of the team that he could have, and frankly should have been. So it felt like an over-pay that hurt the team rather than what was necessary to retain our generational talent. I get that you're an AK homer, fine, but don't kid yourself he was just a random whipping boy for no reason.
 
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