Burks playing team ball; Lyles not

[Deleted member 848]

Wow that's a really interesting take. I think he has one of the smoothest shots of anybody I have seen his size.

his bricks always look ugly though. Total *clunks*.

But then again so do Hood's sometimes, and he has a great stroke. Hayward's kinda tend to rim out as opposed to the clunks.


I dunno. It's weird how bricks tend to look consistent within a player, but inconsistent between players.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

Wow that's a really interesting take. I think he has one of the smoothest shots of anybody I have seen his size.

Form doesnt matter, consistency does. He doesnt have a consistent release and you can tell easily by how much his arc differs on his shots.

 

[NAOS]

FORM DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

his bricks always look ugly though. Total *clunks*.

But then again so do Hood's sometimes, and he has a great stroke. Hayward's kinda tend to rim out as opposed to the clunks.


I dunno. It's weird how bricks tend to look consistent within a player, but inconsistent between players.

Hood's shot relies heavily on his legs, which is probably the source of his shot inconsistency. Hayward, Johnson, and Hill all have more compact 1 motion releases on their 3 pt shots.

 

[stitches]

I was noticing Alec passing up shots he could've taken to move the ball to a more open man, almost to a fault. I think he is working hard to break from his natural inclination to just be a scorer. I also noticed Lyles taking shots when there were guys open with better shots.

I noticed the exact same thing. Every single player on the roster makes the pass to the corner for wide open 3, while Lyles misses that pass repeatedly. I don't know if it's because he doesn't see it, or he thinks him attacking is better option.

 

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I noticed the exact same thing. Every single player on the roster makes the pass to the corner for wide open 3, while Lyles misses that pass repeatedly. I don't know if it's because he doesn't see it, or he thinks him attacking is better option.

He has average, at best, playmaking vision. Disappointing too because above all else he was billed as a playmaker. Maybe the game is just too fast for him ATM.

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[Getting Traded]

Form doesnt matter, consistency does. He doesnt have a consistent release and you can tell easily by how much his arc differs on his shots.

That's because, I think, he often rushes his shot. But he has such great range and a high release so that he has no trouble getting it off. I think he just needs to relax and take his time with it, and if he has to rush then to move the ball or put it on the floor.

 

[Park Bites]

I personally have given up some on Lyles. He just doesn't care on defense and his rebounding is very subject.

I wouldn't complain if the jazz used him in a trade.

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[Handlogten's Heros]

His shot is very inconsistent and he is figuring things out but don't give up him because... Good Gawd dat balance beam doe.

 

[gregbroncs]

I personally have given up some on Lyles. He just doesn't care on defense and his rebounding is very subject.

I wouldn't complain if the jazz used him in a trade.

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What makes you think he doesn't care on defense? He's not good at it, but I see effort that doesn't scream doesn't care to me.

 

[Park Bites]

What makes you think he doesn't care on defense? He's not good at it, but I see effort that doesn't scream doesn't care to me.

He goes through the motions but there is no desire to be a good defender. The NBA is full of players like that.

I know this is arguable but one of the keys to good defense is desire.

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[Hitman]

I was noticing Alec passing up shots he could've taken to move the ball to a more open man, almost to a fault. I think he is working hard to break from his natural inclination to just be a scorer.

You're seeing what you want to see. His assists/36 mins is a career low (1.7) and about half his career average (3.0), while his shots/36 is right on his career average (13.2). He's actually shooting just as much as ever, but passing to the open man far *less*.

Breaking down his shooting, his three-point attempts/36 are a career-high (4.5) while shooting a career-low percentage (30%). He's barely better at shooting 3s than the much-maligned Exum, and they both jack up 3s at the same rate per 36 (4.5).

Now to be fair, he is shooting a career-high percentage overall, and is way, way better on his two-point shots. He hovered around the 40% mark inside the arc over the past two (short) seasons, and has never been above 48% in any season, but this year he is at 55%. Perhaps it would have been more accurate to say he is taking better shots, rather than claiming he is passing them up. But he is still the same score-first Alec, maybe even more so, but at least is taking better shots.

I also noticed Lyles taking shots when there were guys open with better shots.

A very subjective assessment, "better shots". But still accurate - he is the worst shooter inside the arc out of everyone on the team, making only 44% of his two-point shots. His 33% rate outside the arc is also uninspiring. So yeah, pretty much everyone on the team is a better shooting option than Lyles.