bussiness ethics and (cr)apple! apple makning 92% of profit while selling 20% of phones

[Miggs]

Keep in mind how WAY ****ing easier it is for the wealthy to mobilize and move elsewhere than it is for the poorer. My parents spent every last dime of their savings to leave Kosovo in the 90s.

And if they didn't, cute little dalamon may never have been.

 

[Carbon13]

I just hope that there is a study being conducted of the people who were relocated from New Orleans to Houston after Hurricane Katrina and what the comparative outcomes were in relation to those of the same social strata that stayed. . .

We got a lot more good cajun food after Katrina, I can tell you that!

 

[framer]

We got a lot more good cajun food after Katrina, I can tell you that!

Mmmmmmm. Cajun food. . .

 

[The Midnight]

I get that. I am not the least insensitive.

In the case of Christchurch, as if I know anything about the actual details, the government should have created fantastic incentives to the private sector and to whatever measure that didn't work, provide financial aid to those displaced that are unable to do for themselves, and get them back on their feet.

In no event should a government mandate that a business owner can't leave town and MUST reinvest.

Another issue with incentive is development would likely be fragmented. What the government did was take this opportunity to come up with a new city plan (with consultation with the public). So now there will be various precincts where a few the new police HQ will go, where the sports centre will go, where the new library will go, etc.


The impact on residents is it had left them very positive about the future of the city and a few major commercial/retail developers have come back and decided to invest in the city again.


Granted, this would only work with a government with small level of corruption and proper consultation with the public about what they want to see in the new rebuild city, but NZ has one of the lowest level of corruption and the public consultation process was handled very well too with residents having lots of input.

 

[The Midnight]

1) settling in Seismic fault-lines is absolutely nothing like settling in flood plains. The threat of earthquakes is much more sporadic, and unexpected-- not to mention how widespread these fault systems are.
2) the ppl who got the brunt of the damage in famous floods & storms like Katrina were the poorer parts of town (Lower 9th Ward) that had none of the flood-preventing infrastructure that the wealthier parts of town had.

Exactly. Christchurch has had no Earthquakes previous to this one, so it could just be a one-off event.

 

[DutchJazzer]

Isn't the idea of business to make money? People are paying the asking price. Blame it on the people buying them, not the sellers. Nobody is holding a gun to the consumers heads.

but it is stil unethical. or are ethics now a thing of the past

I know it's just another troll thread, but allow me to use an example of what I consider an unethical or at least an immoral price structure.

Back when hurricane Andrew went through south Florida, many people were in dire need of repairs to their homes that the wind and rain had left inhospitable.

One lumber company seeing the supply and demand hiked prices nearly triple for building supplies. The other (Home Depot) slashed prices and drove greater supplies into the area in an act of community responsibility.

When it was all over, the community completely stopped shopping at the one that gouged and while HD flourished.

Unethical? Debatable.

Apple isn't taking advantage of anyone.

au contraire it is not a troll thread. seeems like general consesus is business ethics are overrated and useless i guess

 

[bigb]

but it is stil unethical. or are ethics now a thing of the past

Making money is unethical? Fair price is whatever the market bares. If the Apple users didn't pay the asking price, they would have to lower their price.
I guess in short I don't see this as unethical. There may be (probably are) other things Apple does that are unethical, but selling their product at the market driven price isn't one of them.

 

[Siro]

Making money is unethical? Fair price is whatever the market bares. If the Apple users didn't pay the asking price, they would have to lower their price.
I guess in short I don't see this as unethical. There may be (probably are) other things Apple does that are unethical, but selling their product at the market driven price isn't one of them.

You're literally debating with the dumbest person ever allowed to take a step outside of a mental institution.

 

[bigb]

You're literally debating with the dumbest person ever allowed to take a step outside of a mental institution.

I know and I hate myself for it.

 

[franklin]

You're literally debating with the dumbest person ever allowed to take a step outside of a mental institution.

Want to meet my father in law?

 

[DutchJazzer]

Making money is unethical? Fair price is whatever the market bares. If the Apple users didn't pay the asking price, they would have to lower their price.
I guess in short I don't see this as unethical. There may be (probably are) other things Apple does that are unethical, but selling their product at the market driven price isn't one of them.

is it unethical to ask outrageous prices while giving low wages.

for example

final assembly and test is $227 for the iPhone 6 16GB

while resale price is 649 us dollar. (of course there is shipping cost and marketing cost and cost for the software. but that wont be much more per unit
while employees are working in sweatshops.
maybe maximizing profit is good for shareholders.

but with these asking prices they could set up manufacturing processes in USA and pay fair wages. instead of going to mongolia, china,korea, taiwan and pay them meager wages. it is not ethical towards the (world) community as a whole.

for those who dont know what ethics are

Ethics (also moral philosophy) is the branch of philosophy that involves systematizing, defending, and recommending concepts of right and wrong conduct. The term ethics derives from the Ancient Greek word ἠθικός ethikos, which is derived from the word ἦθος ethos (habit, “custom”).

is it right or wrong?

should they only maximize profits for shareholders.
should they also be right or wrong towards their employees.
btw this same company boycots indiana for their "anti-gay" law. so atleast they take the moral highground there while not boycotting the middle east.

alos apple is stealing other designs and patenting it like a smaller laptop. like seriously laptops have been getting smaller and smaller since the dawn of mankind . yet apple reached a certain thickness first then patented it(the air)

to me apple is very unethical as a company due to various reasons

guess this was the wrong place to discuss this, or i thought i lived in a world where ethics where a thing. guess i was wrong

sorry if you felt trolled this was no troll