Butler?

[Saint Cy of JFC]

I more or less agree. I'd go Favors, Lyles (NOT Exum or Hood) and draft picks - not sure how many. . . but I wouldn't restrict them if it seals the deal.

Burks should get flipped for a pick or a contract. Either give the Jazz cap relief, or give them a contributor. Diaw should be used as cap relief for another team. Use that non-guaranteed contract to get more help. Maybe that's where your power forward help comes from.

You have to give up Exum or Hood.

 

[♪alt13]

Are the Bulls more likely to part with Butler if we take Wade's contract too?

 

[SCS]

You'd trade all of that for a 1 year rental of Paul George? The reason they would trade him is because they may lose him for nothing. You don't give that much up for a player on his last year of contract.

Yes because I think he would re-sign long-term.

 

[SCS]

Too much. Dwight Howard (in a similar situation) cost the Lakers an injury risk player with potential (Andrew Bynum), a backup stretch 4 with potential (Josh McRoberts), a D-League guy (Christian Eyenga) and a first round pick still several years out (2017).

Based on injury concerns and future contract issues, the Jazz should try to keep Hood and Exum, while actively shopping Favors, Burks, Diaw, Lyles and multiple draft picks to try and land another key guy as well as open up some cap space at the same time.

Like I said that would be my best offer. It wouldn't be my first offer. If you can do it for less you do it. But I doubt it would be easy to get him. You aren't going to trade guys like Burks and Diaw for PG lol

 

[NAOS]

I more or less agree. I'd go Favors, Lyles (NOT Exum or Hood) and draft picks - not sure how many. . . but I wouldn't restrict them if it seals the deal.

Burks should get flipped for a pick or a contract. Either give the Jazz cap relief, or give them a contributor. Diaw should be used as cap relief for another team. Use that non-guaranteed contract to get more help. Maybe that's where your power forward help comes from.

Don't know why IND would be interested in two bigs when they have Miles Turner.

 

[NAOS]

I find myself very surprised to say this, but based on contract issues and fit, I think I'd prefer DeRozan over George or Butler. I've been supporters of George and Jimmy since the NCAAs, but I think the shot-making ability of DeRozan would have multiplying effects for our offense. He'd be stellar here.

 

[Coach Ellis]

Don't know why IND would be interested in two bigs when they have Miles Turner.

It doesn't have to be linear. Trades like this often have multiple teams and lots of moving parts. A 3rd team (or 4th team) could kick in a comparable wing or guard and take either Favors or Lyles instead. In the Dwight Howard trade, Philly traded Iggy, Harkless, Vucevic and a first round pick, Lakers traded Bynum, McBob and a first round pick, Denver traded Affalo, Harrington and a couple of draft picks and Orlando traded Howard and spare parts. Each team brought different things to the deal and they worked it out. I could see a similar dynamic if the Jazz prefer to keep Exum and Hood.

 

[Coach Ellis]

I find myself very surprised to say this, but based on contract issues and fit, I think I'd prefer DeRozan over George or Butler. I've been supporters of George and Jimmy since the NCAAs, but I think the shot-making ability of DeRozan would have multiplying effects for our offense. He'd be stellar here.

I agree with this and wanted him last year. . . but I just don't see the Raprors trading him. At least, not for what the Jazz would offer. Teams don't dump stars unless they're desperate. I think the only big names likely to move this offseason are PG13, Jimmy Butler, Blake Griffin and maybe Chris Paul if the Spurs come a'knocking. Maybe Lowry and Millsap, but not entirely sold on them.

I'd like the Jazz to end up with one of those big names. . . prefer PG or Butler over the rest.

 

[silesian]

I think Paul George would be easier to acquire and he may be a slightly better fit because of his ability to shoot it from outside better than Butler. I think Indiana will trade him this offseason. But my best offer for either would be Favors, Hood, Exum + picks.

Winner gets PG13 for 1 year before he signs as an UFA with the Lakers. Who'd be dumb enough to do this?

 

[Ron Mexico]

I find myself very surprised to say this, but based on contract issues and fit, I think I'd prefer DeRozan over George or Butler. I've been supporters of George and Jimmy since the NCAAs, but I think the shot-making ability of DeRozan would have multiplying effects for our offense. He'd be stellar here.

I like DeRozan and think he would be great on our system and could really take an offensive load off Hayward. I would prefer George mostly due to his shooting and defense. I know he might leave but if we made a big run he would probably stay.

 

[SCS]

Winner gets PG13 for 1 year before he signs as an UFA with the Lakers. Who'd be dumb enough to do this?

If PG13 is traded here and wins 55-60 games making a deep run in the playoffs next to Gobert and Hayward, do you really think he would go to the trash a** Lakers and leave an opportunity at a championship?

 

[gregbroncs]

If PG13 is traded here and wins 55-60 games making a deep run in the playoffs next to Gobert and Hayward, do you really think he would go to the trash a** Lakers and leave an opportunity at a championship?

Yes. I do think he may and some players absolutely would. The point is as a small market team you can't throw the house at a guy for 1 year. Hill is excusable because we didn't trade much and needed a short time fix at PG.

 

[sepanol]

I like DeRozan and think he would be great on our system and could really take an offensive load off Hayward. I would prefer George mostly due to his shooting and defense. I know he might leave but if we made a big run he would probably stay.

DeRozan is amazing. He will fit our system perfectly and make us a contender. I just dont see Raptors trading him unless they have a revelation from Mr Wednesday and move away all their players and shut the franchise down.

 

[FalseFlagg K]

DeRozan is amazing. He will fit our system perfectly and make us a contender. I just dont see Raptors trading him unless they have a revelation from Mr Wednesday and move away all their players and shut the franchise down.

DeRozan no thanks, he's a good player but he's incredibly high usage & not necessarily efficient.

 

[sepanol]

DeRozan no thanks, he's a good player but he's incredibly high usage & not necessarily efficient.

He will fill the most needed role in our offense; penetration. He will shine in our system. I dont know anything, if he comes and we can't push the Warriors to 7th game. And beat any other team in the West.

But anyway, there is no way in the hell he would come. It is just a fiction.

 

[NAOS]

He will fill the most needed role in our offense; penetration. He will shine in our system. I dont know anything, if he comes and we can't push the Warriors to 7th game. And beat any other team in the West.

But anyway, there is no way in the hell he would come. It is just a fiction.

he's under contract. If his team trades him, he goes. This isn't a personal decision issue.

 

[sepanol]

he's under contract. If his team trades him, he goes. This isn't a personal decision issue.

Thats what i mean. There is no way his team will trade him. Unless they wanna tank so badly next year and get rid of their top players..

 

[fishonjazz]

The point is as a small market team you can't throw the house at a guy for 1 year.

That's one way to look at it.
Another way to look at it is that small market teams have to take bigger risks because they have less opportunity for sure things.

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[LogGrad98]

I would love to see Butler here. It would make us instantly one of the top 3 teams in the West if not in the NBA, depending on the pieces we put around him, Hayward and Gobert.

 

[NUMBERICA]

While I'm all about this, Neither Butler, nor George, nor Porzingis is going anywhere until Boston starts trading some of their superfluous assets. Everyone is holding out for one of them, at the very least the pick this year.