BYU - it's time come out of the dark ages.

[fishonjazz]

And I have far fewer qualms about her safety than if she were at just about any other university in the county.

This.

Let's say that greens culture of fear title at byu is true. I still believe that less women are getting raped at byu in the first place than almost all other schools.

 

[fishonjazz]

What? So, you are ok with the culture of fear at BYU that allows a rapist to free?

I believe you are better than that.

Is there really a culture of fear at byu to report rapes or was this particular girl scared to report it?

Is byu known for allowing rapists to rape women without repercussions when they are reported?

 

[fishonjazz]

What would be the problem with putting a wall between rape investigations and the honor code office? Don't provide a free pass for honor code violations, just don't use rape investigations as a way to funnel honor code violations to those who enforce the honor code.

Great idea.

 

[fishonjazz]

Lol at greens culture of fear and byu letting rapists run free.

First utes are afraid of byu athlete thug life tough guys hurting all their players... Now utes are afraid of all the rapists running free at byu and raping their daughters!
Oh green, you are the funniest.

 

[JazzGal]

https://m.deseretnews.com/article/515039389/90-of-Provo-rapes-not-reported-to-police.html?pg=all

PROVO — More than 90 percent of rapes in the city go unreported, according to the lead rape investigator for the BYU Police Department.

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[JazzGal]

repeat

 

[JimLes]

Is there really a culture of fear at byu to report rapes or was this particular girl scared to report it?

There's a culture of ignoring and downplaying sexual assault accusations at every single university in North America.

 

[fishonjazz]

There's a culture of ignoring and downplaying sexual assault accusations at every single university in North America.

Probably right.

I don't call that a culture of fear or think that means that when a rape is reported there are no repercussions for the rapist though

 

[green]

https://m.deseretnews.com/article/515039389/90-of-Provo-rapes-not-reported-to-police.html?pg=all

PROVO — More than 90 percent of rapes in the city go unreported, according to the lead rape investigator for the BYU Police Department.

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BYU fans make jokes when reality is much worse. This isn't a joke at all. This isn't me hating BYU. This is a problem.

 

[green]

There's a culture of ignoring and downplaying sexual assault accusations at every single university in North America.

Look at this thread.

 

[green]

Madeline MacDonald, who also agreed to the use of her name by The Tribune, said she made a Title IX sexual assault report in 2014. She said a blind date took her to a mountain in Orem, forced her clothes off, pinned her into the cab of his pickup and groped her while she told him to stop.

"I wasn't drunk, I'd never had previous consensual sex with this guy, there were no drugs involved, and he wasn't in my apartment at all," she said.

MacDonald said she turned to the Women's Services and Resources office, where staff instructed her to file a complaint with the Title IX office. During the subsequent investigation, MacDonald said, Westerberg told her that her case was being forwarded to the Honor Code Office.

"She was telling me at BYU people falsely report rapes because the Honor Code Office is so strict on premarital sex, and people report rapes so they won't get investigated," MacDonald said.

Where is the drugs and alcohol here Colton?

I'm shocked that people are so willing to look the other way on this. It's disgusting.

 

[green]

"Emily" was on a date in July 2015 with a student from another school when he began fondling her as she fought back and told him to stop, she said. According to a rape charge pending in 4th District Court, police wrote that they also found bite marks on Emily's body.

Emily asked to use a pseudonym because her attacker has threatened her.

In January, the man followed Emily to a campus building where she works as a janitor and hid in a bathroom; he jumped out, pinned her to a wall and threatened to kill her, according to a subsequent kidnapping and witness retaliation charge.

BYU police do not refer criminal investigations to the Honor Code Office, said Lt. Arnold Lemmon.

"We're not out there digging up dirt on students and shipping it to the Honor Code Office," he said.

But officers are required to notify victims of their options under Title IX. The detective over Emily's second attack told her that the Title IX office could connect her to services.

Instead, Emily said, the office opened an Honor Code investigation into her conduct.

"[Westerberg] said ... that's part of the policy: Any time a sexual assault is reported, they have to send it to the Honor Code Office," Emily recalled. "She said that her hands were tied by the policy. ... I asked her, 'I don't understand what you're saying.' She said, 'We have an Honor Code policy at BYU and we don't apologize for that.'

"That killed me, because I've never broken the Honor Code, ever, and here it was being used to say it was my fault, what had happened to me," Emily said.

You guys should really read the article before posting.

The way BYU treated this woman is appalling.