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Caitlyn Jenner

Do you only ever speak in extremes? Conflating sex with gender yet again, of course. Also, it's reassuring that the IOC spent what seems like seconds coming to the very obvious decision of letting Caitlyn keep her medal. Good.

maybe it was sarcasm?
 
I'm confused.

The petition is real. Log's response was sarcasm. Not sure where the double sarcasm enters into the story.



I'd respect her much more if I didn't have such a strong sense that Caitlyn Jenner, and Bruce before her, is the ultimate self promoter. It causes me to discount the difficulties she (he) may have faced during her (his) lifetime.
 
Two things:

1. If someone feels they need to make changes to be true to themselves, more power to them. Often, it does take real bravery to do so.

2. In this particular case, I felt like the "reveal" itself was less about inspiring and empowering transgenders, and more about personal attention whoring.
 
It is sad that the world celebrates and applauds mutilation, just because the person suffers from a disorder that makes him think he is the wrong sex.
it is not brave or heroic to mutilate yourself because you're suffering from Gender identity disorder. that isnt cured by mutilation

now they want to remove gender from birth certificates. all because of some mental illness that makes you think u are trapped in wrong body.
make taxpayers pay for these mutilations.

sigh sad sad sad world we live in.


will we pay for the wiggers and wanksters the pigment transformation surgery too? because lets face it they are confused about their pigmentation. they are african americans trapped in white mans bodies


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just like the above sample. its the same thing.
you are born in a group but long to be in another group.


can anyone explain to me what it feels like to be a woman.
or to be a man.


i have a PENIS but how do i know i have the soul of a man. maybe i will feel better if i was ina womans body? cans omeone epxplain to me!
 
Two things:

1. If someone feels they need to make changes to be true to themselves, more power to them. Often, it does take real bravery to do so.

2. In this particular case, I felt like the "reveal" itself was less about inspiring and empowering transgenders, and more about personal attention whoring.

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Do you only ever speak in extremes? Conflating sex with gender yet again, of course. Also, it's reassuring that the IOC spent what seems like seconds coming to the very obvious decision of letting Caitlyn keep her medal. Good.

There you go being arbitrary again to promote your views over everyone else's. You can't blur a line in some places and draw the same line sharp in others.


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So here is a hypothetical (for everyone, not aimed at dal necessarily)...

LeBron James decides that he will follow the feelings he has had since he was 2 and live publicly as a woman. He feels far more comfortable in woman's body. He starts taking hormones and basically does exactly what Jenner did, complete with cover photo and 1 hour special on ESPN. Then he publicly states he is no longer comfortable being in a men's locker room. He wants to play in the WNBA with his (now her) "own kind".

Is it allowed? Why or why not?
 
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There you go being arbitrary again to promote your views over everyone else's. You can't blur a line in some places and draw the same line sharp in others.

Yes you can. This is done for many things. We don't live in a society filled with simpletons & void of nuance.


Edit:

So here is a hypothetical (for everyone, not aimed at dal necessarily)...

LeBron James decides that he will follow the feelings he has had since he was 2 and live publicly as a woman. He feels far more comfortable in woman's body. He starts taking hormones and basically does exactly what Jenner did, complete with cover photo and 1 hour special on ESPN. Then he publicly states he is no longer comfortable being in a men's locker room. He wants to play in the WNBA with his (now her) "own kind".

Is it allowed? Why or why not?

1) flawed example-- women are allowed to play in the NBA (the Jazz even drafted one)
2) for the sake of argument-- umm, yes? Not sure why this would be problematic given the precedent set by the IOC. Oh noes, line-blurring!! Everything must be black and white in this world!


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Yes you can. This is done for many things. We don't live in a society filled with simpletons & void of nuance.




1) flawed example-- women are allowed to play in the NBA (the Jazz even drafted one)
2) for the sake of argument-- umm, yes? Not sure why this would be problematic given the precedent set by the IOC. Oh noes, line-blurring!! Everything must be black and white in this world!


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What is funny about your sarcastic comment at the end (the whole oh noes thing) is that I agree that people can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else's rights. So be a woman if you want, or a goat, or a banana. I see no problem with LBJ playing in the WNBA (so why not drop the W and just let women play in the D league or something?) or women in the NBA, no biggie. But as long as I disagree with you in some way you feel the need to denigrate me until I do agree. That is the new ultra-liberal way though: you can have your own thoughts as long as they are the same as mine, otherwise I need to vilify you until you get in line. So carry on.
 
What is funny about your sarcastic comment at the end (the whole oh noes thing) is that I agree that people can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't interfere with anyone else's rights. So be a woman if you want, or a goat, or a banana. I see no problem with LBJ playing in the WNBA (so why not drop the W and just let women play in the D league or something?) or women in the NBA, no biggie. But as long as I disagree with you in some way you feel the need to denigrate me until I do agree. That is the new ultra-liberal way though: you can have your own thoughts as long as they are the same as mine, otherwise I need to vilify you until you get in line. So carry on.

Log pretty much just crushed this.
 
There you go being arbitrary again to promote your views over everyone else's. You can't blur a line in some places and draw the same line sharp in others.


Edit:

So here is a hypothetical (for everyone, not aimed at dal necessarily)...

LeBron James decides that he will follow the feelings he has had since he was 2 and live publicly as a woman. He feels far more comfortable in woman's body. He starts taking hormones and basically does exactly what Jenner did, complete with cover photo and 1 hour special on ESPN. Then he publicly states he is no longer comfortable being in a men's locker room. He wants to play in the WNBA with his (now her) "own kind".

Is it allowed? Why or why not?
Yes, it is allowed because of the humongous ratings boon the WNBA would experience. Think of the money that could be made here, man. That's what it's all about, right?
 
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