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Ben10 said:
I live less than an Hour from St. George. I would be down for this. RSVP me please
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Jealous of you, as well as the others. Its funny, because I actually love every single STG poster. Id imagine that they'd only be even cooler in person.
 
idiot said:
The more I look at it, the more I just don't get the fascination with Cousins.

Even the idea of trading Jefferson for Cousins just doesn't seem like a sure thing to me. Compare their career stats, esp. per 36 and the advanced stats, and try to tell me why you expect that Cousins would make us much better than Jefferson:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/jeffeal01.html
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/couside01.html

The only possible thing I see there is that Cousins improved almost everything in year 2 compared to year 1 (except assists). Only if you assume this improvement will continue (which I don't think is a very safe bet, having looked at lots of career player stats -- they tend to fluctuate, and only a few show clear long-term upward trends) is there an argument to be made for Cousins's superiority. And remember, Al was on dysfunctional teams early in his career too.

I'm particularly concerned about Cousins's FG%. Show me a post player that started so low who ended up having above average efficiency (someone might exist, but he's probably more of an exception rather than a rule). Even though Cousins is better at drawing fouls, Jefferson's TS% has never been as low as Cousins's was both of Cousins's first two years. And why would we want Cousins if he wasn't giving us above average efficiency (as we'd surely be expecting him to take the most shots and develop into an all-NBA player)?

Is Cousins a better P&R defender? I'm doubtful. As he ages with his bigger body, especially, I think his defensive quickness will decline faster than Jefferson's has.

Cousins has never had a season as good at shot blocking as Jefferson's worst year, despite being a bit longer.

Cousins is going to be demanding every bit as big a contract as Jefferson would be once free agency hits. We'd certainly not be fixing our logjam at 4/5 if we somehow switched Jefferson for Cousins.

And all this is without even bringing up character issues.

I recognize that Cousins has great offensive and rebounding potential. But how is he going to help us much more than Jefferson has if he's a high usage, low efficiency, defensively well-below average player? Everyone knows he has talent, but why should we think he'll turn into anything more than marginally more effective at things that help teams win than Jefferson is?
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Blah, blah, blah

Stop giving me the numbers. I can look those up. Look past the numbers and try to explain why he got what he got. Could it be teammates? System? Stability? Give me something different.

Before you go and throw a fit about this, I will just point to two players. Boozer and Stoudemire. They both moved teams. Both became less effective players. Why? Did they get dramatically worse as a player? Nope, that is not it. They changed teams and that also meant changing teammates, system and culture. They are both good players but they were exposed slightly because the players that helped make them look better were not there anymore.

The opposite can also be true. Marcin Gortat. He was a back up center in Orlando. Then he changed teams which also means that he changed teammates, system and culture. Now ESPN is ranking him as a top 60 player in the league. Can your numbers explain why he got better? Did he work so hard in the offseason that he became so much better overnight? I think not.

The Kings as a team and a franchise are a mess. They have a team full of chuckers. Evans, Thornton, Thomas, Fredette and Salmons. Not one of those players would I describe as players that help their teammates be better. Everyone was just looking for their own shot. They don't seem to have any true direction on either side of the ball. Once your numbers can explain that to me I will start to listen to you. Numbers certainly have their place in basketball, but they certainly can't explain everything. Sometimes the eyeball test clears up the issue.
 
Stoked said:
I lump anyone north of the Richfield area into you "northern boys". Others are dragging you down Orange Jello.
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That is it.


















I am looking for someone to take in a family of 4. I will accept any invitation with the exception of UGLI. I don't know that I can trust him around my wife.
 
Looking forward to this BTW. Zulu is my only friend who is into the Jazz like I am. Hope the team chemistry is there maybe we can make it a regular thing during the season.
 
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