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Jim Barnett (1975)
Bernie Fryer (1975)
Gail Goodrich (1977-1979)
Terry Furlow (1980)
Billy McKinney (1981)
Rickey Williams (1983)
Eddie Hughes (1988)
Jim Les (1989-1990)
John Crotty (1993-2002)
Troy Hudson (1998)
Mo Williams (2004)
Keith McLeod (2005-2006)
Al Jefferson (2011-2012)


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As a 25 year old rookie Jim Les Played in 82 games for the Utah Jazz in 88-89

The next year he played in one Jazz game before being waived.

According to wikipedia, Jim Les leads the Jazz in per all time per 48 turnovers. Turnovers: Jim Les (5.55)


ON THE SIDELINES : Utah Waives Les, Signs Rudd
November 06, 1989|From Times Staff and wire service reports
SALT LAKE CITY — The Utah Jazz waived veteran backup point guard Jim Les today and signed free agent Delaney Rudd of Wake Forest to fill out their 12-player roster.

The terms of the contract with Rudd, who turns 27 on Wednesday, were not released, said Jazz spokesman Kim Turner.

The 6-foot-2 point guard was a third-round draft pick of the Jazz in 1985, the same draft that produced Karl Malone and Carey Scurry. Rudd has played previously in the CBA and the United States Basketball League.

He also played in Greece for two seasons, averaging 33 points a game.

Rudd is expected to be in uniform Wednesday night when the Jazz host Charlotte.
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In 1998-99, the 25th season in franchise history, the Jazz went 37-13. They didn't do that well by taking care of the ball as they ranked 25th in the league with 814 TOs.
 
In 2003-04, the team's 25th season in Utah, the Jazz shocked the league by going 42-40 and just missing the playoffs in spite of John Stockton retiring and the Mailman going to the Lakers. Rookie Mo Williams wore no. 25 that year. Of all the great years he had, Jerry Sloan should have won COY that year. The Jazz shouldn't have won that many games.
 
I don't know why but I'm having fun with 25 today. The Jazz have selected 2 players with the 25th pick of the draft: Martin Muursepp in 1996 and Morris Almond in 2007. Muursepp never saw action with the Jazz. Almond played in 34 games with the Jazz (including 25 in 2008-09).
 
Checking in at #25 in Jazz all-time ranks:

Points: David Benoit (3,035)
Rebounds: Pistol Pete Maravich (1,435)
Assists: Jay Humphries (545)
Steals: Blue Edwards (238)
Blocks: Danny Schayes (140)
Games Played: Aaron James (356)
 
nightmare3983 said:
Checking in at #25 in Jazz all-time ranks:

Points: David Benoit (3,035)
Rebounds: Pistol Pete Maravich (1,435)
Assists: Jay Humphries (545)
Steals: Blue Edwards (238)
Blocks: Danny Schayes (140)
Games Played: Aaron James (356)
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Where do you find the all-time ranks? I can find top ten all time but nothing down to 25. You've got some great Jazz stuff, where are you getting it?
 
Hey, can anyone help me remeber the details of the sudden Jim Les Departure. Was he the guy that got drunk and punched Stockton at a Halloween party?
 
mellow said:
Hey, can anyone help me remeber the details of the sudden Jim Les Departure. Was he the guy that got drunk and punched Stockton at a Halloween party?
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Stockton got punched by a teammate?! The only punching incident I've found so far is Bart Kofoed punching Bobby Hansen at a New Year's Eve party. I haven't seen anything about why Les got waived yet.

EDIT: I also read about Billy Paultz frustrating Olajuwon to the point where Olajuwon punched him during a game.
 
Thee jazz fan said:
I seem to remember Stockton getting punched, but I can't recall who hit him.
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If I can find stuff about Kofoed punching Hansen it seems like there would be something out there about Stockton getting punched. That said, I wouldn't remember it because I was only 5 or 6 around the time this would've happened.
 
i've already chroncled how the gail goodrich (#25) signing cost us a shot at magic, so i won't rehash that here... check the 32 thread for more on that.

rickey williams' (#25) one season with the jazz was when he was 25 years old, and his story is an odd one. the jazz actually drafted him in the 10th round of the 1978 draft -- he was picked 190th overall. he never suited up for the jazz that season, and the following year, they traded his draft rights to the bulls for wilbur holland, who would never appear in a jazz game. williams never played for the bulls either, but made his way back to the jazz via free agency in the 82-83 season. after that one year with the jazz, he played in the CBA with the bay state bomardiers before his career was over.

mo williams (#25) left the jazz when they opted not to sign a $5.5M-over-three-years offer sheet for him. while that might sound crazy, remember that he shot 38% from the field that year and averaged an assist about every 10 minutes. the jazz reobtained mo in a non-simultaneous trade of memo okur. memo came to the jazz when he was 25 years old, and he started 25 games during that first season. the memo trade will also present the jazz with an additional 2nd-round pick in 2015 (from brooklyn).

earl watson wore #25 for most of his career. when he got to the jazz, al jefferson owned the number. earl could have exercised his veteran right to his preferred number, but he let al keep #25 and instead opted for #11.

nightmare appropriately points out that the jazz drafted martin muursep with the 25th overall pick in the 1996 draft and that muursep never played for the jazz. that's because muursep was immediately traded for a 2000 pick that became deshawn stevenson, who was later traded for gordan giricek, who was later traded for kyle korver. that's 10 years worth of rotation shooting guards all because we drafted martin muursep for the miami heat. what did the heat get from muursep? only 27 total minutes before they packaged him with kurt thomas ans sasha danilovic in a trade for jamal mashburn, who turned 25 in his first full season with the heat. muursep's career only lasted one season after that, the sum total of his NBA experienced adding up to 951 minutes in 83 games, and 25 total blocks.
 
editorialized version: i was in the DC for the 1996 draft party and helped boo the announcement that the jazz were trading their pick to miami for a 2000 1st. 2000 seemed so far away, and as always, the draft class seemed sexier than a 4-year wait.

turns out the jazz were good enough without muursep (or any 1996 1st rounder) to reach the finals, and what we actually did was trade a guy who wouldn't play 1,000 career minutes for a string of three starting-caliber shooting guards who spanned 10 years.

in retrospect, i shouldn't have booed. we won that trade.
 
three more fun ones, and then i'm done with 25...

rickey green wore #25 during his rookie season after he was drafted 16th overall by the warriors. now most of you know rickey as "the fastest of them all" and know the details of his departure from SLC to begin the stockton era in earnest. but the story of how he GOT to the jazz is just as interesting. after one season with the Ws, they traded him to detroit for a future 2nd rounder. he played just 431 the following season with detroit, and then the pistons waived him. he missed the entire 79-80 season (when he was 25). back then, though, waiver rules worked differently, so even though he hadn't played for a season and a half, the jazz claimed him off waivers on august 12, when he was 25 years and 359 days old. so basically, our all-star point guard who appeared in 36 playoff games was picked up off the NBA scrap heap.

7-foot-3 aleksandar radojevic wore #51 in his lone season with the jazz, but was #25 for the raptors, who used the 12th overall pick in the 1999 draft to get him. he only played in 3 games for toronto though, before he was traded to two different teams who never suited him up. first he went to denver in the package deal that netted keon clark for the raptors. then the nugs traded him and kevin willis to get scott williams and a future draft pick that turned into josh smith. rado never played for those franchises and in fact never logged another NBA minute until he signed with the jazz as a free agent. (after clark was traded to toronto, he was signed by sacramento, traded to utah where he appeared in 2 games, and then sent to phoenix in the tom gugliotta salary dump that netted us snyder, hayward, and the pick we later traded for tomic.)

bernie fryer (born december 25) signed with the jazz at age 25, part of a two-year career that saw him play for 3 different teams. he later became an NBA referee who officiated 1,649 regular season games. in 2008, he became the VP over officiating, a position he's still in today. before his pro career, he played at BYU.
 
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