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JazzSpazz said:
Let me pretend you are a moran and explain this line by line.

At a caucus meeting registered voters of a certain political party get together and and vote on who the delegates will be for their geographical location. They are choosing the people that will vote for which candidate they want to represent their party in different elections.

You see, people like Ron Paul, Mitt Romney, etc... are hoping to get enough delegate votes in order to be the presidential candidate for their party.
The delegates also decide for other positions as well. There are state delegates, and county delegates for various positions.

Some of these votes come down to one, or a few votes between delegates. If you want a delegate that holds the same views as you, you go to the caucus meeting, ask them questions, and vote for the one that you think would best vote for your interests. You could even run as a delegate yourself so you know your interests would be met adequately.

This is how the people have a voice in who we have a chance to vote for when the time comes to vote. Is my voice stronger than someone that donated millions? No, but thousands of voices like mine would be stronger than someone that donated millions. If you don't speak up, your voice will definitely not ever be stronger than someone that donates cash to get ahead.

One more question for you.
Why do you post here? You're not making a difference. Your posts are not stronger than a Premium Member that has donated?

As to the March Madness. If March Madness is more important to you than your country, stop posting about problems or your opinions about our country.
If it doesn't matter enough for you to skip a few games, then you should just shut up about our country and be along for the ride without complaining.
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cool story dog
 
The Thriller said:
LOL

How do you know I didn't actually go?

Does that make March Madness not as good?

I don't think believing that my voice doesn't matter is a strong indication of whether I actually went or not. I'm sure there are many who missed but believed that their voices are important. Likewise, there were other people (like me) who went but still understand that their voices aren't nearly as influential as my corporate brothers and sisters. Or do corporations not have gender? I'm so confused. Corporations are people, right?
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People that get involved, if enough get involved, will always be more influential than corporations.
What is a corporation, without the people that own the corporation. A corporation is just a group of people that have a voice together for whatever is important to them. They have access to money, and use that money to try to influence things in their favor. I don't think that's right, but if we as individual voters got together and unified our voices it would overcome the money and voice of corporate backers. Will it happen immediately, nope. It will take a consistent effort, and it will take getting our neighbors off of their couches and involved. The apathy in this country is staggering. The "silent majority" needs to wake up, and speak up.
 
The Thriller said:
I'm sorry that you think that your tiny voice actually matters.
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This pretty much sums up The Thriller. Bitch, moan, complain, belittle, and be as obnoxious as possible -- and then don't participate and mock those who do. You are everything that is wrong with America, OGat, and I really do hate your guts and liver.
 
JazzSpazz said:
People that get involved, if enough get involved, will always be more influential than corporations.
What is a corporation, without the people that own the corporation. A corporation is just a group of people that have a voice together for whatever is important to them. They have access to money, and use that money to try to influence things in their favor. I don't think that's right, but if we as individual voters got together and unified our voices it would overcome the money and voice of corporate backers. Will it happen immediately, nope. It will take a consistent effort, and it will take getting our neighbors off of their couches and involved. The apathy in this country is staggering. The "silent majority" needs to wake up, and speak up.
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But what do you think of sex education in schools?

And mandatory pledge of allegiance reciting in class?

Thanks for your participation in our caucuses. I'm sure you made a huge difference. Your long rant made me realize, that I should never ever ever complain ever again. thank you for investing so much time and energy in edukating me.
 
The Thriller said:
But what do you think of sex education in schools?

And mandatory pledge of allegiance reciting in class?

Thanks for your participation in our caucuses. I'm sure you made a huge difference. Your long rant made me realize, that I should never ever ever complain ever again. thank you for investing so much time and energy in edukating me.
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Brilliant.
 
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I'm sure this was something incredibly insightful. How goes the insurance selling boy? How's the fam?
 
JazzSpazz said:
Why don't you get involved in the next one.
Then you can run the one after that, and run it.

I don't know if it will help with the voting. Why would the people vote for someone that does not represent their interests? I don't get that. My only guess is that people voted for someone they knew rather than voting for someone that will mirror what they would want to do.

I went, and it was crazy. It's better if more people come. We had a better turn out this time, but we still only had a small percentage of the people show up.
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They only allowed a minute for introductions of each nominee and a minute of questions so the guy got through his 2 minutes without being asked who he supported for president. (the people asking questions used it as a time to pontificate their own views instead of just asking a relevant question) So, I think you are right that people voted him in based on whether they knew him personally beforehand. I learned that the thing to do if you want to get voted in as a delegate is to take as many of your friends and family with you as you can.

No one but me seemed to care about changing out our governor, but Hatch might be in trouble.

How did your caucus work nominations and voting?
 
Millsapa said:
They only allowed a minute for introductions of each nominee and a minute of questions so the guy got through his 2 minutes without being asked who he supported for president. (the people asking questions used it as a time to pontificate their own views instead of just asking a relevant question) So, I think you are right that people voted him in based on whether they knew him personally beforehand. I learned that the thing to do if you want to get voted in as a delegate is to take as many of your friends and family with you as you can.

No one but me seemed to care about changing out our governor, but Hatch might be in trouble.

How did your caucus work nominations and voting?
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It sounds like it was the same, down to the pontificating questioners. People started telling them to shut up and ask a question, if it wasn't so sad it would have been funny. 1 minute speech, 1 minute of questions. You don't really get to know the delegates then and there, so the hope is that you know your neighbors and can ask the right questions. You could be right on the family and friends, but I do know that a few in ours didn't plan on throwing their name in the hat, but did and won. It was based on their 2 minutes because people didn't know them. It may have had as much to do with the other peoples 2 minutes as well, and the majority of the people didn't want them to win.

Yes, most people seem to want Hatch out, but there were a few that were fine with him to stay in if there was not a better candidate. Quite a few just want there to be a term limit in general.

Most people did not have an issue with the Governor.

It was funny to see at least half of the questions were from the other people running, some of them were obviously trying to make the person answering look dumb. That was lame.
 
I couldn't believe all the pro-Hatch people at my caucus. When Hatch went on a radio show here (KVNU's For The People) they did not allow callers and the only questions they did allow from the hosts were pre-screened. The dude is over the hill and losing it. After his speech at the Lincoln dinner he tried to exit through one of those huge partition walls they use in hotels. The only problem was there was no door on it. Then he almost walked off the back of the stage, instead of using the stairs. All in all, it was good comedy.
 
Off topic, but I really like the Fill-Pot guy for governor. I listened to him on Rod Arquette the other day and he impressed me quite a bit. I need to do some more reading into some of his background, but from just that one interview he seems like the anti-good ol' boy. I won't be voting for Hatch.
 
TroutBum said:
Why ask me questions when I'm on ignore and you can't read the response? You can't even lie with any form of competence.
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It's probably just true that selling insurance is not really very challenging to Trout, that's why he comes here to fill in the useless thumb-tweedling time at the office. And I figure that insurance agents who can spot a scam virtually instantly will save their companies a lot of money and earn their keep.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to TroutBum again.
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Why put someone on ignore when obviously you care what they think? And want to reply????
 
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