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Cavs and Celtics Battling for Butler

I find it super hard to believe the Cavs have any shot at landing Butler.

But then again Chicago is a stupid team run by stupid people, so who knows.
 
I find it super hard to believe the Cavs have any shot at landing Butler.

But then again Chicago is a stupid team run by stupid people, so who knows.

All depends on if a team really wants Love. If somebody like Sacramento wanted Love so badly to trade #5 to Chicago, you just never know.
 
All depends on if a team really wants Love. If somebody like Sacramento wanted Love so badly to trade #5 to Chicago, you just never know.

There is just no plane of existence where anyone values Butler = Love and Cleveland has no other + assets to part with to make up the difference in value.
 
There is just no plane of existence where anyone values Butler = Love and Cleveland has no other + assets to part with to make up the difference in value.

Yep. They need a third team to facilitate a deal to acquire Butler or George. I'm praying no team is dumb enough to help them.
 
I can see love for George, but I'd think Boston could do better. May be just extracting value by engaging as many teams as possible... Minny also involved... would be another bad omen for Hayward staying... we need more talent heading east.
 
There is just no plane of existence where anyone values Butler = Love and Cleveland has no other + assets to part with to make up the difference in value.

You're probably right, but you just never know. Maybe Cleveland is looking to deal Tristan and Love. I think there are a bunch of teams out there who would love that big man tandem to come in immediately. What if Portland got involved.... http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=y9ldaar5 Portland could do this and send Chicago 3 first round picks and some future draft pick.

You have to think outside the box when you're looking at that 3rd team. Love and Thompson on Portland with Lillard and McCollum scares the crap out of me now that I think about it...
 
While the Cavs, Celtics, Timberwolves and Suns all swoon over Butler/Live deals that aren't likely to happen, I hope the Jazz swoop in and steal PG13 for a song. Be decisive and go get a guy to team up with Hayward and Gobert right now.
 
Reports are that LeBrons wife wants to stay in LA and Lakers management is hoping that convinces him to go that route. Maybe that's why Cleveland is pushing so hard here.
 
Reports are that LeBrons wife wants to stay in LA and Lakers management is hoping that convinces him to go that route. Maybe that's why Cleveland is pushing so hard here.

or he signs with clippers to play with paul.
 
again how do the reports know about this?

They probably asked james' wife if she wants to live in L.A. she probably said yes.

and that leads to this report. lol
 
Cavs are a **** show... letting Griff go today is a joke... they did it to spite him. No one should root for the Cavs. Gilbert is a bully douchebag. Can't wait for Lebron to leave.

DL needs to call Griff right now and get the scoop... bring him on as a consultant.
 
While the Cavs, Celtics, Timberwolves and Suns all swoon over Butler/Live deals that aren't likely to happen, I hope the Jazz swoop in and steal PG13 for a song. Be decisive and go get a guy to team up with Hayward and Gobert right now.
Honestly, you might have something here.

IF the Cavs can get Butler and Love goes somewhere else
AND
the Celtics don't pursue George as a Butler replacement until after the start of free agency
=
PGeorge might be attainable.

If we throw Favors, Diaw, #24, #42 and our 2018 first at them, they might say yes. You never know. The Pacers want this to happen quickly so to avoid a circus.

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If Boston gets Butler and has room for Hayward I think that greatly lowers our chances of keeping him. The only thing we would have going for us is that Hayward probably doesnt want to be 4th fiddle and probably does not want to play with IT. But he might sacrifice that to be on a team that might push Cavs and GS.

The other thing that might be going for us is that Blake Griffin would probably be a better fit for that team. Especially if they keep Crowder and Jaylen Brown. Those two can hold down the SF spot pretty well. I think a IT, Butler, Crowder, Griffin and Horford is better than IT, Butler, Hayward, Amir or Jerebko and Horford lineup.

If Boston wants Butler and Chicago does want to trade him they will get him. No one can outbid Boston for Butler. I guess I am assuming Chicago is going for a rebuild and not a reload although Boston could offer them parts to do both at the same time. Cavs, Jazz and others cant really offer much except veteran players and late draft picks that are not worth rebuilding with.

Utah could easily counter Boston getting Butler if they get their own player of that quality like PG13, or maybe a couple players like both PG13 or Love and Bledsoe or Lillard. I know some of that might not be possible but Jazz should be very active looking at any all-star level player and making offers and being very aggressive.
 
Maybe Batum could be had for cheap? Hope playing on a better team and playing with Gobert helps him step up his game a bit. Although his contract is pretty rough and his play has slumped again. Just thinking of anyone else that could be attainable.
 
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