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Cavs and Wolves Agree on Love for Wiggins/Bennett/1st

Avery said:
This is a fair trade for both teams.

Cleveland - As great as he is, Lebron's 29 and been in the league for more than a decade. He can still play another decade, but he wants to win now and doesn't have the luxury of time. Wiggins may be awesome four years from now, but nobody will take a 33 year old Lebron over his current self. Love gives him a better chance to win in his prime vs. Wiggins - simple as that.

Minnesota - Love was gone next year and you can either get assets for him and bite the bullet now or wait until you leave empty-handed. The protected first is going to be a late pick so it doesn't really matter. Bennett is a role player who is too small to guard PF's and not quick enough to guard SF's, but he could be a competent 6th man since he has a decent shooting touch. Wiggins is really the only thing that matters; he could be T-Mac or a poor man's Rudy Gay, but Minny isn't going anywhere so you may as well let him develop and hope that he can become a cornerstone for your franchise.
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seattlejazzfan said:
They need Love to do what he does well - score, rebound, pass and throw long touchdowns to LeBron. Varejao, TT and Haywood can handle the interior D.

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I agree with these.

A lot of people are underrating Kevin love because his teams have sucked. His numbers are ELITE though and he should fit very very nicely with Cleveland.

How many playoff games has Anthony Davis won? A lot of people consider him to be a top five player in the league.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
In Davis' defense, he's been in the league just two years. Love has been in the NBA, what, six years now?
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This is true but a lot of people think Davis is better than love already. (Myself included)

Point is that sometimes really good players play on bad teams for bad organizations and don't make the playoffs. I think kyrie is very good and I don't think he has made the playoffs either.

T-mac was really good and had yao with him and those teams didn't do much.

Did Carmelo make the playoffs last year? Love playing in a very dominant west didn't help him.

I'm not sure but I think pippen missed the playoffs without Jordan

Is love bad at defense? Definitely
But he is a better passer, rebounder, and scorer than almost every big in the entire league....... including Anthony Davis
 
fishonjazz said:
This is true but a lot of people think Davis is better than love already. (Myself included)

Point is that sometimes really good players play on bad teams for bad organizations and don't make the playoffs. I think kyrie is very good and I don't think he has made the playoffs either.

T-mac was really good and had yao with him and those teams didn't do much.

Did Carmelo make the playoffs last year? Love playing in a very dominant west didn't help him.

I'm not sure but I think pippen missed the playoffs without Jordan

Is love bad at defense? Definitely
But he is a better passer, rebounder, and scorer than almost every big in the entire league....... including Anthony Davis
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Well said.

I don't think Pippen missed the playoffs without Jordan. Jordan sat 1.5 seasons if I remember correctly and in the one full season he was out, Pippen was awesome and brought them to the second round of the playoffs, losing a game seven to the Knicks who eventually lost the NBA title in seven games to the Rockets.
 
QuinSnydersHair said:
Well said.

I don't think Pippen missed the playoffs without Jordan. Jordan sat 1.5 seasons if I remember correctly and in the one full season he was out, Pippen was awesome and brought them to the second round of the playoffs, losing a game seven to the Knicks who eventually lost the NBA title in seven games to the Rockets.
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Ya, I couldn't remember for sure.
Pretty impressive accomplishment by pippen
 
kabenac said:
Kevin Love is a good scorer and great rebounder but HE'S NOT A GOOD DEFENDER. In fact, he's pretty bad.

MN now has Wiggins, Bennett and a 1st. Bennett will be OK - last year was a complete nightmare for him but at worst, I think he can be a rotation player who plays 15 minutes a game.

I'm excited to see Wiggins and Rubio on the same team.
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I really like this trade for Twolves and I agree on bennett
 
fishonjazz said:
This is true but a lot of people think Davis is better than love already. (Myself included)

Point is that sometimes really good players play on bad teams for bad organizations and don't make the playoffs. I think kyrie is very good and I don't think he has made the playoffs either.

T-mac was really good and had yao with him and those teams didn't do much.

Did Carmelo make the playoffs last year? Love playing in a very dominant west didn't help him.

I'm not sure but I think pippen missed the playoffs without Jordan

Is love bad at defense? Definitely
But he is a better passer, rebounder, and scorer than almost every big in the entire league....... including Anthony Davis
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Bottom line is Kevin Love is arguably the best PF in the league and is just 25. Sure he doesn't defend, but everybody, with the exception of LeBron, has holes in their game. You can win championships with some guys on your team that aren't good defenders.

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Holy crap. Don't quit your day jobs people. This is a fantastic trade for both sides. Cleveland gives up Bennett, who has not shown he is anywhere near a #1 pick. Heck, he might not even be a starter in this league. They give up a future #1, which will be a late first round pick, which means most likely they gave up nothing, and Wiggins. Wiggins could be amazing. He could be the next Tracy McGrady. Or he could be Rudy Gay.

I'd rather have Love than McGrady or Gay.

Cleveland now has LeBron, Irving, and Love. They are the favorite to win the East. They are better matchups against SA now than the Heat were last year. LeBron = LeBron. Irving > Wade. Love > Bosh.

Cleveland will now be in the finals next June. Chicago is the only team that "might" give Cleveland a scare in the East, and Chicago can't score worth a lick.

If you are Cleveland you do this trade without hesitating. Heck, I'd even have another first ready if Minn had asked for it.
 
Getting Love for them, with LeBron and Irving is a good move. I think that Wiggins will be better long term, but this is a good move for the Cavs. I'm interested in what the Wolves do to rebuild. Kahn built them a strange roster without Love and they are going to go through a weird transition mode. LaVine looks pretty good, possibly great. . . but is it all flash?
 
green said:
Holy crap. Don't quit your day jobs people. This is a fantastic trade for both sides. Cleveland gives up Bennett, who has not shown he is anywhere near a #1 pick. Heck, he might not even be a starter in this league. They give up a future #1, which will be a late first round pick, which means most likely they gave up nothing, and Wiggins. Wiggins could be amazing. He could be the next Tracy McGrady. Or he could be Rudy Gay.

I'd rather have Love than McGrady or Gay.

Cleveland now has LeBron, Irving, and Love. They are the favorite to win the East. They are better matchups against SA now than the Heat were last year. LeBron = LeBron. Irving > Wade. Love > Bosh.

Cleveland will now be in the finals next June. Chicago is the only team that "might" give Cleveland a scare in the East, and Chicago can't score worth a lick.

If you are Cleveland you do this trade without hesitating. Heck, I'd even have another first ready if Minn had asked for it.
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Yup.

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