CEO raises minimum wage to $70000, takes $70000 wage himself until profits are met.

[Deleted member 848]

I am all for that. It just sucks when you are trying to keep your family fed and housed and barely doing it and your bills keep going up to cover someone elses asses. I appreciate the idea of obamacare as the system was already broken, its just become a different kind of broken imo.

it needs further revision, 100%, but the direction it needs revision in is probably the direction that is least-likely to occur. Industry currently serves to benefit most from America's current adaption of health-care, and their placement in government lobby groups pretty much stymies any movement for change. Y'all are ****ed, in other words.

 

[Siro]

Once upon a time in my younger years I asked why should they be so exorbitantly high. I was rebuffed with "They make 50x what others do because it takes 50 others to do that job". At the time... I accepted it.

What 10 years of existence in the workforce has taught me is that I should have asked "Does that mean that one person can do the job of 50 others?"

They should be paid more if they're preforming well. If they're providing real leadership and direction, they should make more. 50x more though?

A strawman. They get paid more because that's what the people paying them think they're worth.

And hi everybody!

 

[Siro]

Only ppl who hate it are rich people who are upset that their deep pockets can't make them get an MRI or operation quicker.

No private clinics in Canada?

 

[Maktub]

Why would the employer fire employees only to have to train new ones? Makes no sense.

I didn't say he'd fire anybody. What I'm talking about is when future jobs open up. The lower skilled workers won't be able to compete.

 

[Harambe]

I'm mainly bitching about obamacare. My premiums have gone up from $450 to close to $800. If I was making what I make and my company didnt offer insurance I would get help from the govt and would be paying around $120. Or if I didnt have a job I'd be paying $50 or so. But because my company offers insurance I get no help and am paying A LOT more than I did before obamacare. I have yet to meet someone who is middle class that hasn't been screwed by obamacare.

And that sucks my friend. I'm so sorry for that. I've seen an increase in my insurance rate as well, $10 a check or $260/year(single white male).

The benefits have been:

Helping lower income families get insured
Lowering, dramatically, the amount of unpaid hospital bills
Along with CMS guidelines and quality measures, curbing the increase in spending per capita per year(2006 it was near 8%, and still below 3% even though the economy is back on track)**
Can not deny coverage for pre-existing conditions
More ad-nauseum

I don't like that my insurance company is pocketing that money... it was used as an excuse to increase premiums. But we're gonna take a loss sometimes. For the benefits provided, even with some abusers, I really don't mind.

** Yes, I remember the promise of saving $2500 a year. But if you continue from 2006 with the 8.5% increase per year, you'll get the number they promised.

 

[Harambe]

I am all for that. It just sucks when you are trying to keep your family fed and housed and barely doing it and your bills keep going up to cover someone elses asses. I appreciate the idea of obamacare as the system was already broken, its just become a different kind of broken imo.

You're totally right bro. It needs further revision. But until we can get the jackwagons in congress to work with it instead of against it, there's just no chance.

 

[Beer]

And that sucks my friend. I'm so sorry for that. I've seen an increase in my insurance rate as well, $10 a check or $260/year(single white male).

The benefits have been:

Helping lower income families get insured
Lowering, dramatically, the amount of unpaid hospital bills
Along with CMS guidelines and quality measures, curbing the increase in spending per capita per year(2006 it was near 8%, and still below 3% even though the economy is back on track)**
Can not deny coverage for pre-existing conditions
More ad-nauseum

I don't like that my insurance company is pocketing that money... it was used as an excuse to increase premiums. But we're gonna take a loss sometimes. For the benefits provided, even with some abusers, I really don't mind.

** Yes, I remember the promise of saving $2500 a year. But if you continue from 2006 with the 8.5% increase per year, you'll get the number they promised.

Isn't that what medicare (?) was for?

I do work for a company that benefits greatly from the new CMS regulations so that is good for me I guess.

 

[NAOS]

A pile of money isn't something to be proud of?

inherently? Not at all. Not even ****ing close. What about the pile of money that was thrown into swiss banks after the jews were killed? Should anybody have been proud of that? Surely you see the disastrous assumptions your making. Why did you backpedal from MEANING and MONEY?

 

[Siro]

inherently? Not at all. Not even ****ing close. What about the pile of money that was thrown into swiss banks after the jews were killed? Should anybody have been proud of that? Surely you see the disastrous assumptions your making. Why did you backpedal from MEANING and MONEY?

I don't see where he used "meaning" in that context.

 

[Carbon13]

Flat Taxes are an awful idea-- 10% of a dude making $120000 a year means that maybe he can only stay in Hawaii for one week on his annual vacation, as opposed to two.

10% for a family making $40000 a year means that their kids could go to sleep hungry every now and then.


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But doesnt that kinda give credence to the whole class warfare thing? I think there is merit to the class warfare argument.

 

[Harambe]

Isn't that what medicare (?) was for?

I do work for a company that benefits greatly from the new CMS regulations so that is good for me I guess.

Didn't cover a lot of it. Moreso, even the medicare expansion the government was giving out money to start, the same one that a lot of states(including Utah) didn't go through with doesn't cover a lot of things.

And what if you had a job, but had a pre-existing condition?

 

[Deleted member 848]

But doesnt that kinda give credence to the whole class warfare thing? I think there is merit to the class warfare argument.

Class-warfare is just a fear-mongering term. Any movements done to try and address income inequality are immediately considered "class warfare". Baffling.


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