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Chad Ford has us taking Exum at #5.

A line-up of

Smart
Oladipo
Afflalo
Harris
Vucevic

with:
Harkless
Nicholson
12th pick

makes much more sense IMO.
 
Beantown said:
The *insert NBA team here* have a history of drafting players that never worked out for them. Add Exum to the list.
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fixed. Even the Spurs missed on great 2nd round talent like Isaiah Thomas, Draymond Green, etc. etc.
 
dalamon said:
The Magic cleared out Glen Davis off the roster just so they could regularly start Tobias, and give Andrew Nicholson some burn too. Seeing as Smart, Vonleh, and Exum are all on a similar tier in terms of ceilings (with Exum arguably the highest), I'd imagine they would err on the side of roster need.
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Nicholson and Tobias do not have the same ceiling as those 3 players.

Harris can easily get just as much playing time playing both positions. So no problem there. Andrew Nicholson is a scrub and always will be.
 
Twin Towers said:
Nicholson and Tobias do not have the same ceiling as those 3 players.

Harris can easily get just as much playing time playing both positions. So no problem there. Andrew Nicholson is a scrub and always will be.
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I repeat, they are very high on Tobias-- also, Tobias plays way better at the 4. They tried him at the 3 for a chunk of the season, before deciding that he was a lot better off as a 4 instead. Going BPA obviously makes sense (aka why I want the Jazz to draft Vonleh instead of Gordon) but if the ceiling of two potential draftees is a wash, then you err on the side of roster need.
 
dalamon said:
I repeat, they are very high on Tobias-- also, Tobias plays way better at the 4. They tried him at the 3 for a chunk of the season, before deciding that he was a lot better off as a 4 instead. Going BPA obviously makes sense (aka why I want the Jazz to draft Vonleh instead of Gordon) but if the ceiling of two potential draftees is a wash, then you err on the side of roster need.
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They can be high on Tobias but he can still play 10-15 minutes at the 3 and the rest at the 4. Being the 6th man. The Diaw of that team but younger. It doesn't take anything away from him.
Vonleh I think is a more complete player then Marcus Smart. But its debatable and they would not be dumb to take Smart and have a powerful back court.
BUT if you look at the key playoff teams the majority of them had 2 bigs down low. Lebron can get away with it. But most teams will never have Lebron.
There is a reason these bigger teams get into the playoffs and usually get farther into the playoffs.
If I was the Magic I would use Harris as a combo 3/4 and go with Vonleh. As PG's are easy to find and don't effect the game in the same way bigs can on both ends of the court. Especially shoot first PG's. They are everywhere.

Same reason why I think Kanter and Favors will play together and make everyone eat crow this year who fell into the Corbin propaganda.
 
With Harris and Nicholson in Orlando if they take Vonleh it'd really speak volumes of what they think of him.

Kyle O'Quinn was better than Nicholson this year too, picking up his player option for 950k is a no-brainer.
 
PointGod_AlecBurks said:
With Harris and Nicholson in Orlando if they take Vonleh it'd really speak volumes of what they think of him.

Kyle O'Quinn was better than Nicholson this year too, picking up his player option for 950k is a no-brainer.
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Yup. O'Quinn, Nicholson (who is certainly a competent backup-big IMO), and Tobias are all deserving of minutes, and pretty solid assets to a team. The only way I think that Orlando doesn't draft a PG/SG is if they decide to fulfill that roster need via Free Agency, and they simply flip the bird and draft whom they like most.

Exum or Smart to Orlando makes an awful lot of sense though.
 
My Big Board looks like this right now:
1- Embiid (if Healthy)
2- Parker
3- Wiggins
4- Vonleh
5- Exum
6- Smart
7- Gordon
8-Randle
 
1- Embiid (if Healthy)
2- Parker
3- Wiggins
4- Vonleh
5- Smart
6- Exum
7- Gordon
8-Randle

Gordon falls out of top 10 if he cannot play the 3 position. Or a team doesn't think he can. I don't think he makes it in the league as a 4.
But as a 3 he could be really good. an AK or Lamar Odom type player.

Randle I think will give you 14 and 9 on any team with the right minutes. But his ceiling sucks and I don't think he can help you protect the paint. And his post game is overrated. More of a face up player who tries to spin and throw up wild shots. Won't work in the NBA.
 
I think it makes a lot of sense for ORL to snag Vonleh, or Parker if Exum were to go to Philly who is looking for fast and athletic (assuming Wiggins & Embiiid are gone). They have the 12th pick, and that will still have some really good pg's to choose from in Ennis or Lavine, or they could reach for someone like Payton, Napier, or Kyle Anderson (if they saw him as capable in NBA).

I like Exum a lot, but feel more comfortable w/ A. Gordon. We need more instinctual passing, especially on the wing (the two Gordon's would be great at wing creating together). If Snyder can get Trey to run, and look for others more (which he excels at when he tries), then I may have to reconsider him as our PG, because of his PnR skills (Snyder says we'll run more than Spurs, which is like 65+ sets a game according to Locke), and the extra court spacing it sounds like we'll have should really help him when getting to the rim.
 
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