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but hitler did use force and violence first.

it is not comparable!

hitler litterally threw jews in the oven. murdered stole from jews.


how is that comparable to ben shapiro going to a univeristy and giving a speech!

He didn't throw Jews into ovens first. First, he used the legislative process to essentially take away their citizenship. Much like how Trump is trying desperately to take away votings rights of minorities, make it increasingly more difficult for them to obtain an education, and make it easier for them to be incarcerated.

https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007695

At the annual party rally held in Nuremberg in 1935, the Nazis announced new laws which institutionalized many of the racial theories prevalent in Nazi ideology. The laws excluded German Jews from Reich citizenship and prohibited them from marrying or having sexual relations with persons of "German or related blood." Ancillary ordinances to the laws disenfranchised Jews and deprived them of most political rights.

The Nuremberg Laws, as they became known, did not define a "Jew" as someone with particular religious beliefs. Instead, anyone who had three or four Jewish grandparents was defined as a Jew, regardless of whether that individual identified himself or herself as a Jew or belonged to the Jewish religious community. Many Germans who had not practiced Judaism for years found themselves caught in the grip of Nazi terror. Even people with Jewish grandparents who had converted to Christianity were defined as Jews.
 
Didn't say it was.
I said I'm glad someone used violence to oppose Hitler.
In other words, I disagree with those saying violence is never the answer. I think that sometimes violence is necessary and serves a purpose.

initiation of force is always wrong.

responding with force to the ination of force is right.


hitler initiated force.
please show me how unite the right started the violence and i agree!
 
No, I will not answer your random unconnected questions. They have nothing to do with what I said and I don't feel the need to answer your random thoughts.

it is not unconected.


the right held all kind of marches and protested.
some far right some just center.
everytime the media ignored the violence from the left. the racism from the left!

now that it escelated and fighting back has started. you say antifa is not racist!


yes they ARE! you and the media just ignored that
 
He didn't throw Jews into ovens first. First, he used the legislative process to essentially take away their citizenship. Much like how Trump is trying desperately to take away votings rights of minorities, make it increasingly more difficult for them to obtain an education, and make it easier for them to be incarcerated.

https://www.ushmm.org/outreach/en/article.php?ModuleId=10007695



still how is that comparable to marching in a street, in a country with a 1st amendment?
 
Didn't say it was.
I said I'm glad someone used violence to oppose Hitler.
In other words, I disagree with those saying violence is never the answer. I think that sometimes violence is necessary and serves a purpose.

So these nazis/white supremacists marching...do they not have the right to do so? As long as they're not creating distraction, creating violence, I think so.

And yes, they are awful. They are disgusting. They are wrong. But bringing violence on them right now is not the answer. It just makes matters worse. Punch a nazi? I'd love to. But it's the wrong move. Violence won't show them why they're wrong, it just justifies their position (in their mind).
 
I'm not supporting the white supremacists.

Do you have a point here?

Yes. As much as I hate it, because people are stubborn, it will always eventually fall to violence at one point or another.

Which message(note; not group of people) do you think promotes more violence?
 
Hannity just spent 25 mins claiming that:

  • The President was right, both sides were out of line. The media wants to destroy Trump.
  • Obama never waited for facts to come out. When he claimed that Trayvon Martin could've been his son, he completely tore the country in half.
  • 7,000 Hillary Clinton emails have been found and the FBI should prosecute her.
 
So these nazis/white supremacists marching...do they not have the right to do so? As long as they're not creating distraction, creating violence, I think so.

And yes, they are awful. They are disgusting. They are wrong. But bringing violence on them right now is not the answer. It just makes matters worse. Punch a nazi? I'd love to. But it's the wrong move. Violence won't show them why they're wrong, it just justifies their position (in their mind).
 
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