Chris Paul

[Fishsticks]

This will all be solved in the next CBA. It is not in the leagues best intrest to have multiple superstars on one team. Probably why he wants to be traded ASAP.

 

[Fishsticks]

D Will + CP3 + Big Al > Lebron + Wade + Bosh

Fail Fanboy

 

[unluckyseventeen]

Ak for Chrissy straight up...

(D Will = Superstar) && (D Will > CP3)

Decent syntax.

 

[Hopper]

Now it's Christmas games of Kobe vs. Shaq, not lakers vs. heat... or Kobe vs. Lebron... NBA doesn't promote team, it promotes superstars. Stern did great 20 years ago promoting its stars to put the NBA on the map, but it's gotten out of hand now...

Yeah, I know what you're sayin, but what else are ya gunna do (and is it really any different in the other professional leagues)? Outside of Boston, no one gives a crap about Boston, although they may care, and somehow feel attached to, Bird, Rondo, Garnett, or other some other player they find attractive for other reasons. How do you promote Boston, qua Boston, outside of Boston?

I mean, you can talk about the Boston mystique, or faraway "dynasties" I spoze, but how far will that carry you with the average modern fan? Don't get me wrong, I don't feel the same as I think the "average fan" does, but that's not the point. The point is if you're trying to attract the masses, then you must find something that appeals to the masses. You're not gunna attract young kids to a particular brand of breakfast cereal by raving about how "nutrious" it is, know what I'm sayin?

 

[VINYLONE]

1. This was already posted in the general NBA forum

2. Nowhere in this article is there any reference whatsoever about D-Will or any other "Deron"

Um.

 

[G-O-A-T]

Um.

This thread was moved from the Jazz discussion board and https://jazzfanz.com/showthread.php/1397-Chris-Paul was posted beforehand.

 

[G-O-A-T]

The point is if you're trying to attract the masses, then you must find something that appeals to the masses. You're not gunna attract young kids to a particular brand of breakfast cereal by raving about how "nutrious" it is, know what I'm sayin?

While probably true that the best marketing strategy to the masses is to showcase individual superstars in favor of teams and cities, it doesn't necessarily mean that it is the best marketing strategy in the long term.

For instance, ... how do I say this without getting a warning... OK, lets say that the Jazz organization, for the purpose of increasing ticket sales, offered a promotion where all ticket purchasers got to "spend an evening" with the Jazz dancer of their choice.

The "masses", (well maybe not in Utah) would be buying up tickets left and right to get in on this promotion... would you agree? Great short term promotion

Now, while everyone who took advantage of their promotion probably enjoyed themselves at the time... 6 months later, there might be a few unhappy customers... and 6 months after that, I imagine a few other folks might find a few unpleasant side effects... and before long you would have a city full of diseased men angry at the Jazz for bringing this on... long term effects: bad promotion

I see the NBA equivalent working somewhat like this:

1. NBA promotes superstars to get quick business.
2. Quick business leads to unintended side effects (stars becoming bigger than the league).
3. Stars start exerting their new found power to indulge their individual desires.
4. Stars indulge so much that the rest of the league suffers.
5. Fans get tired and quit watching.
6. Bye bye NBA.

I like basketball and don't want to see this happen... and right now, I don't think this scenario is so far away from materializing.

 

[Stifle Tower]

I actually think New Orleans has done a decent job of trying to surround him with talent. Magic and Lakers obviously are not happening and they would have to part with significant pieces anyway. New York is not a forward move from New Orleans from an on the court standpoint. Chirs is a *****.

I disagree with that. Amare, Chandler, Gallinari and Paul would be a pretty good core. Only problem is NY gave up almost all their picks to Houston in the T-MAC trade. They'd have to give back some players. Maybe Toney Douglas, Randolph and Chandler.

I doubt NO would try to cut a deal with the Lakers. LA doesn't have much young talent to give up. And I'm not sure what Orlando could offer a rebuilding team. Would the Hornets want Jameer and either Gortat or Anderson + picks?

They could always deal him to Portland for Matthews;-)

 

[bat]

I hope he goes to the Lakers, that way they can be the team whose *** we kick all the time.

 

[David Stern]

Superstars will always be idolized by people outside the teams regular fanbase... like Jordan. But in what other league do the star players receive the benefit of biased officiating. Yeah, you can argue that it's a matter of viewpoint, but if the league will unofficially sanction rule changes during the last 10 seconds of a game of a close game, what makes you think they wont willingly turn a blind eye to star treatment officiating?

I don't think it's any coincidence that when Stern took over, the NBA's success skyrocketed, especially with the rivalries of Bird and Magic and with Jordan's dominance. Now it's Christmas games of Kobe vs. Shaq, not lakers vs. heat... or Kobe vs. Lebron... NBA doesn't promote team, it promotes superstars. Stern did great 20 years ago promoting its stars to put the NBA on the map, but it's gotten out of hand now...

 

[Gameface]

A 3-on-3 league of 18 teams would work very well, imho. That is, if you're into superstar bball.

 

[Cece]

Here's a trade to get CPout3 to Orlando: https://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=38frwo5